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  • FCOD
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2008
    • 3961

    Glock 22 misfortunes

    **RESOLVED**

    Boiled down to operator error :-X
    Last edited by FCOD; 09-05-2010, 1:26 PM.
  • #2
    rabagley
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2008
    • 7180

    Check the extractor first. Pretty simple and cheap to drop in a replacement extractor, piston, and spring and see if that fixes it. If that's okay, then I would get a stainless guide rod and a wolff spring kit so you have lots of spring weights to play with. Start with stock and then try the closest springs first. Small changes. A non-captive rod will make it MUCH easier to change out springs.

    Also, how do you know you're not limp wristing it? When the brass does eject, where does it go? If it goes straight back over your head, that's another symptom of limp-wristing.
    "Ecuador offers the United States $23 million a year in economic aid, an amount similar to what we were receiving under the tariff benefits, with the purpose of providing human rights training that will contribute to avoid violations of people's privacy, that degrade humanity," --Fernando Alvarado

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    • #3
      FCOD
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2008
      • 3961

      Brass goes out to the right. I trust I'm not limp wristing it because out of all the Glocks I've used over the years this seems to be the one thats given me a problem. The extractor is find and so is the plunger and plunger spring (detail stripped slide). I was told to try the captive steel spring and 15# spring (stock is 17#?), but I don't want to spend $30 if its not going to do anything for me.

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      • #4
        Ultimate
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 593

        No reason to switch out type of recoil springs unless you want the added heft of the steel guide rod to help with recoil.

        The stock spring should work fine. So if you are going to replace it, replace it with a factory one.

        If the extractor is fine,

        check the extractor spring,

        Check the little bar that sticks into the mag well when you look at the frame from the top it should not be significantly bent. (should have 1882 number on it)

        Make sure your slide rails are lubed (though it should not matter)

        Lastly, replace recoil spring with stock if nothing above has fixed the issue.

        If after you get to this point it's still having issues, you have no choice but to send it to glock as it might have something way off spec since they are really simple guns.

        Thats about as far as you can go in regards to user serviceable parts that affect the ejection of brass.

        Good luck

        Also you might want to stick a snap cap in there and slowly cycle your gun as u peek through the top. The problem might reveal itself.
        Last edited by Ultimate; 02-04-2010, 9:09 PM.

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        • #5
          Notblake
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 512

          Step one, sell glock. Step two, purchase S&W M&P! PRESTO!

          (sorry I had too)

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          • #6
            FCOD
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Oct 2008
            • 3961

            Maybe I should have addressed the jam a little more in depth. The type of jam I'm getting is where the next round tries chambering, but the spent casing gets lodged between the breech face and barrel hood. I usually quickly clear this by rip, rack, reload and go which works just fine, but I feel as though I shouldn't be having these problems.

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            • #7
              FCOD
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Oct 2008
              • 3961

              I've heard plenty of ill stories of M&Ps too! They're all machines and all machines are prone to problems.

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              • #8
                rabagley
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2008
                • 7180

                Originally posted by FCOD
                Maybe I should have addressed the jam a little more in depth. The type of jam I'm getting is where the next round tries chambering, but the spent casing gets lodged between the breech face and barrel hood. I usually quickly clear this by rip, rack, reload and go which works just fine, but I feel as though I shouldn't be having these problems.
                That's a classic stovepipe FTE, and is usually an extractor problem. It doesn't have to be the extractor part that's failed. The spring behind it may have been made with low strength or the piston between the spring and the extractor may be sticking in the channel.
                "Ecuador offers the United States $23 million a year in economic aid, an amount similar to what we were receiving under the tariff benefits, with the purpose of providing human rights training that will contribute to avoid violations of people's privacy, that degrade humanity," --Fernando Alvarado

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                • #9
                  Blackhawk556
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 4202

                  do glocks have good warranty?? I don't own one so I don't know

                  How about calling them and asking if they can fix it or something?
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                  • #10
                    krzgoat
                    Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 408

                    Just fixed this for a friend of mine. He had an older Glock 23 that was experiencing this. Upon inspection we found a tiny piece of the corner on the extractor was missing. We replaced the extractor piece and it was all better again.

                    Take a look at the extractor and see if seems like a piece is missing. Real easy part to replace.

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                    • #11
                      FCOD
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 3961

                      The extractor appears to be in good condition. I never let it fall on a round, but I'll pull it out again and check that corner of it.

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                      • #12
                        new cal shooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 752

                        Send it back to Glock I said it

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                        • #13
                          FCOD
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 3961

                          NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! lol. I've heard great stories about them paying for shipping and fixing a Glock no matter how many owners it's had or what problem it has, but I've also heard that they can take 8 weeks or so.

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                          • #14
                            Voo
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1702

                            When the brass does get thrown out, does it move with good speed (ie thrown out) or does it just sorta "plop" out?

                            It's harder to diagnose this one without being present.. Off the top of my head, I can think of 3 or 4 things that might be the source of your grief..

                            1) Recoil spring. Your brass isn't getting ejected due to some binding or over-strength type recoil spring (unlikely). Using a light recoil spring could potentially fix it, but it should run with the OEM one. I'd leave this alone for now

                            2) extractor - something here might be busted.. the extractor spring, extractor claw or bearing might be jacked..I would definitely detail strip this part of the gun and examine it for any cracks, chips, excessive signs of wear.

                            3) User error - Are you sure you're not riding the slide with your thumb during livefire? This could slow it down enough to the point where the slide isnt' going as far rearward as it should?

                            Think about these things.. Maybe you'll see something that you hadn't noticed before.. Additionally, this does NOT sound like a magazine type problem.. Your gun is feeding fine. There's absolutely no need to go and get magazine springs..
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                            • #15
                              FCOD
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 3961

                              It launches the shells pretty good. I see you're from San Diego. If you've ever been to American Shooting Center you know how tall the lane dividers are. It launches the shells over the divider. I'll be at ASC on Saturday. If you have nothing going on you're welcome to join us.

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