CAA RONI Question

[MotherGunner]

So I was thinking about getting a CAA RONI when it becomes available.

What are your thoughts? Is it CA Legal?

Sorry if this topic has been beaten to death, but when I search by CAA RONI, I only have 17 topics, which none where specific to it.

Thanks!

(Took embedded vid out, too slow) Here is the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6DWSm5fW3I

[Quiet]

ILLEGAL in the USA without BATFE approval to make a SBR.

In CA, BATFE will not give approval for a SBR, unless CA DOJ BOF gives approval for a Dangerous Weapons Permit.

[1siktkt]

Too much fun so gotta be a No No in PRK

[MotherGunner]

Wow, yeah I knew about the SBR retriction on rifles, but I had no idea it extended to "hardware" for a pistol.

Correct?

[ke6guj]

that firearm is now designed to be fired from the shoulder, hence it is a rifle. And due to the dimensions, it is an SBR.

It is no different that a shoulder stock being attached to a pistol making it an SBR, been that way for the last 76 years.

[Swift Justice]

Saw and played with this at the EMA Tactical booth at the SHOT show (EMA actually makes it and other stuff for CAA). Me and all the guys I was with would give the right family jewel for one, but alas, it was never meant to be.

[racky]

*just gonna bring back an old thread*

can we still have the RONI as long as it isn't attached to the gun? constructive laws apply? i just saw that they're selling them now for the glock. i wanna get my hands on the USP version when it comes out (just to make my inner mall-ninja happy)

[Quiet]

*just gonna bring back an old thread*

can we still have the RONI as long as it isn't attached to the gun? constructive laws apply? i just saw that they're selling them now for the glock. i wanna get my hands on the USP version when it comes out (just to make my inner mall-ninja happy)

NO.

CA and the Feds have constructive possession laws.

Under the CA law, if you own it and a firearm that can use it, it's illegal. Even if it's stored in different locations. (PC 12020(c)(2)(E)]


Penal Code 12020
(c)(2) As used in this section, a "short-barreled rifle" means any of the following:
(A) A rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(B) A rifle with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
(C) Any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(D) Any device which may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge which, when so restored, is a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C), inclusive.
(E) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C), inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C), inclusive, may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

[Flying Bones]

NO.

CA and the Feds have constructive possession laws FOR SBR's.

Under the CA law, if you own it and a firearm that can use it, it's illegal. Even if it's stored in different locations. (PC 12020(c)(2)(E)]


Penal Code 12020
(c)(2) As used in this section, a "short-barreled rifle" means any of the following:
(A) A rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(B) A rifle with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
(C) Any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(D) Any device which may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge which, when so restored, is a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C), inclusive.
(E) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C), inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C), inclusive, may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

Const. Pos for SBR's. Thank god not for others.

[ke6guj]

they have constructive possesion regs for SBS, SBR, MGs, and suppressors. There is not constructive possession regs for AWs or .50BMG rifles.

[aznanimekid]

what if i buy one and i do not have a firearm to attach it too? would be a nice gucci item to attach to an airsoft pistol

[ke6guj]

If you don't have the combination of parts needed to assemle an SBR, then you dont' have constructive possession of an SBR.

[racky]

what if i buy one and i do not have a firearm to attach it too? would be a nice gucci item to attach to an airsoft pistol

nice! i should get one for my "airsoft" that i don't own