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  • nrvnqsrxk
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 983

    Loaded 1911 or M&P 9mm?

    Someone recommended to me that I just pick one handgun platform that fit me best, and train extensively with that platform. That way I wouldn't have to deal with buying different mags and holsters for every handgun I had. + The money I spend on other guns could be spent on ammo and training. (I really want to go to one of Magpul, Clint Smith, or Larry Vicker's classes. I heard Front Site teaches a modified weaver, but I shoot iso)

    Soooo I was debating between CZ P-01, Glock 19, and S&W M&P 9mm. I made my way to the local gun store and groped them all. The P-01 seemed solid, and pointed well, but I didn't like it so much that I could overlook the small slide and lack of aftermarket support. I've shot the G19, but something about the grip and trigger bothered me. The S&W M&P 9mm felt and pointed much better in my hands, so that ruled out the Glock.

    But...

    A case over I saw a Loaded Parkerized 9109 1911 calling to me.



    I have always liked the 1911 platform, but had always assumed that they would be super expensive, maintenance intensive, and expensive to feed. (But I realized that the .45acp loads at the local range are only $2 more than the 9mm)

    The 1911 also has 3 less rounds than the M&P.

    Soooo...If my goals are to attend a bunch of training classes to git gud (after I build my AR, which I start after finish my first pistol platform), and to become extremely proficient, would you recommend a M&P 9mm or SA 1911? Which would be a better combat pistol? (I put more emphasis on shot placement than ballistics) Is the extra $200 I shell out worth the cost for shooting .45 and having a nicer trigger and all steel frame? What are the pros and cons for each gun?

    I've been racking my brain for the entire day, unable to pay attention in class, and it's killin me
  • #2
    smarter
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 594

    I own both 1911 in .45 and m&p 9. I love the the 1911 as a fun target shooting gun, which of course can serve it's purpose without a doubt for HD. But the m&p 9 feels so much better and it's natural point and shoot form without a doubt, will be make it easier for accurate placement and follow up shots. I'm planning on attending a magpul handgun class and i'll be bringing my m&p 9 along for the fun. Of course my 1911, will be close by as a backup if needed. If you can own both, but if you have to choose one get the m&p 9 and spend the 200 bucks on ammo.

    My $.02.

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    • #3
      sholling
      I need a LIFE!!
      CGN Contributor
      • Sep 2007
      • 10360

      In my opinion whoever told you to only own one handgun got it half right. You don't need a dozen handguns but I say buy the one that calls you the most and save up for the other. The two handle so close to the same that training for one will apply to the other.

      Over time you'll want to add a carry (when it becomes legal) and a 22 to practice like crazy with.

      EDIT: Of course you could compromise and buy an M&P45.
      Last edited by sholling; 01-26-2010, 9:04 PM.
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      • #4
        Mad Scotsman
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 527

        I have a XD 9mm and just bought a SA 1911. Love them both but they are different guns. I had reserves about a 9mm for HD but realistically, a couple of JHP's and he's going down. XD is point and click and so easy my wife thinks she's taking it. 1911 is the ultimate hand gun, IMO, heavier and takes a little more practice, cleaning, etc. You can always find good deals on ammo online and get a couple of buddies to go in and split shipping, so cost stays down.
        Personal preference, pick what you really want and will be happy with it.
        "We were free until we stopped fighting, now no one has freedom." - Chief Tawonka

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        • #5
          Ducman
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 2107

          It's just a matter of time in which one would you buy first you can never have just one.
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          • #6
            Legasat
            Intergalactic Member
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2009
            • 4151

            I own both M&P's and a Dan Wesson 1911. Both have their place.

            The 1911 is legendary, but more expensive. The M&P's are proven performers.

            If I had to start over with just one, definately M&P 9mm. Less expensive, reliable, easy to shoot, less money to train with.

            Just my $0.02
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            • #7
              pigman
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 684

              MAKE SURE you get the M&P 9mm with a "upgraded" striker / fire pin, If you pull the pistol apart, pull out the striker and if it's black steel, pass or ask for another striker, if it looks like chrome, your upgraded and good to go!
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              http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=552157

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              • #8
                X-NewYawker
                In Memoriam
                • May 2008
                • 5993

                I have had many 1911s from EVERY manufacturer (except SIG) including maga-buck custom jobs. When I head to the range I grab my Springfield XD-9 9mm. Why? Cheap ammo. super accurate, and FITS MY HAND (mostly because it's aping the 1911 grip angle) go to a range with several of these guns for rent. Shoot them. See how easily (and instinctively) they point at the target in whatever two handed grip you're going to chose. NO ONE on this board can tell you what gun to buy because it has to fit your hand.

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                • #9
                  Exiledviking
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1455

                  Originally posted by X-NewYawker
                  ..go to a range with several of these guns for rent. Shoot them. See how easily (and instinctively) they point at the target in whatever two handed grip you're going to chose. NO ONE on this board can tell you what gun to buy because it has to fit your hand.
                  +1

                  I love my 1911s but I shoot my 9mm guns more often due to price and availability of ammo.
                  "Most people understand that guns deter criminals. If a killer were stalking your family, would you feel safer putting a sign out front announcing, "This Home Is a Gun-Free Zone"? But that is what the Westroads Mall did" (in Omaha, Neb).
                  - John Lott -

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                  • #10
                    Exiledviking
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1455

                    Originally posted by X-NewYawker
                    ..go to a range with several of these guns for rent. Shoot them. See how easily (and instinctively) they point at the target in whatever two handed grip you're going to chose. NO ONE on this board can tell you what gun to buy because it has to fit your hand.
                    +1

                    I love my 1911s but I shoot my 9mm guns more often due to price and availability of ammo.
                    "Most people understand that guns deter criminals. If a killer were stalking your family, would you feel safer putting a sign out front announcing, "This Home Is a Gun-Free Zone"? But that is what the Westroads Mall did" (in Omaha, Neb).
                    - John Lott -

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                    • #11
                      tiko
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 866

                      I sold my M&P and never buy another 8 lbs trigger gun, from now on I plan only to buy 1911s, probably a Colt Goldcup (I' ve got SW1911, Kimber Raptor, Les Baer TRS and Les Baer P II).
                      But a plastic gun may fit you good, and you save money
                      Do it yourself.

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                      • #12
                        38super
                        Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 117

                        One at a time, pick one up. Close eyes and raise to what you think is your sight line. Pick the one that consistently lines up.

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                        • #13
                          nrvnqsrxk
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 983

                          Thanks for all the responses guys. I'm stilllll undecided, because @ Insight Shooting Range (Cerritos), they sell 50 rds of $9mm and .45acp for $13 and $15 respectively, so I don't think ammo is that much of a cost issue. Even if I choose the 1911 in the end, I'll just suck up the cost of ammo, because that is what I'm gonna sacrifice if I'm gonna git gud.

                          Anyone know of any shooting ranges near the 562/714 area that have the 9mm M&P for me to try out? I've tried calling the Firing Line in Huntington, and they don't seem to have it.

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                          • #14
                            Notblake
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 512

                            Try Ironsights shooting range in oceanside, they've got lots for rent.

                            +1 for the M&P

                            Also you might want to split the difference and get a CZ75!

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                            • #15
                              thefurball
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 610

                              Originally posted by nrvnqsrxk
                              Someone recommended to me that I just pick one handgun...
                              Similar to potato chips, it can be difficult to have 'just one'.

                              Choose the one that is a best fit for you to start and then add more (same platform or not) as time and money allow.

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