.45 GAP?

[dbear22]

I have the opportunity to pick up a Glock .45 gap for 450 bucks but I dont know if this is a good caliber, whats entailed in reloading does it take the same dies as a ACP or anything else about it so does anyone have one? like it? dislike it? thanks

[BillPear]

Glock 37 .45 GAP is on "sale" at Turners for $399.99 this week, so I would say not a great deal.

[Miltiades]

Won't win a popularity contest...

I have the opportunity to pick up a Glock .45 gap for 450 bucks but I dont know if this is a good caliber.

The .45 GAP mimics the .45 ACP in performance, but is not popular because the ammo costs more and is hard to find. Very few guns are chambered in .45 GAP and you can often buy them for less than a similar gun in .45 ACP because of the caliber's low popularity.

[Vin496]

I have the opportunity to pick up a Glock .45 gap for 450 bucks but I dont know if this is a good caliber, whats entailed in reloading does it take the same dies as a ACP or anything else about it so does anyone have one? like it? dislike it? thanks

People can't give them away at $300-$350 NIB.

Plain and simple, no one wants one.

[ALSystems]

Stay away from unpopular calibers no matter what the price of the gun is unless you reload.

[CHS]

The .45GAP was a solution to a problem that Glock invented by being arrogant morons about their frame design.

It's less than pointless.

[tuna quesadilla]

The .45GAP was a solution to a problem that Glock invented by being arrogant morons about their frame design.

It's less than pointless.

You couldn't be any more wrong.

Show me a pistol that fits a full size 45 ACP round into the standard 9mm sized frame. The XD45 fails hard - it's a friggin brick. M&P45? Nope. P220 vs p225? Still doesn't quite cut it. Historically, .45 frames are much larger (therefore more uncomfortable) than 9mm frames. The 45 GAP is revolutionary in that it closely mimics ACP performance in a 9mm frame. You might not find it useful, but it is VERY useful for people who prefer smaller grips. It used to be that I'd you wanted a comfortable 45 you had to get a 1911. now there's a much more modern, effective solution. Ammo cost is a moot point if you reload, like any serious shooter should.

[bigthaiboy]

From Wikipedia:

The .45 G.A.P. (often called the .45 "GAP") pistol cartridge was designed by Ernest Durham, an engineer with CCI/Speer, at the request of firearms manufacturer Glock to provide a cartridge that would equal the power of the .45 ACP but was shorter to fit in a more compact handgun, and with a stronger case head to reduce the possibility of case neck blowouts. G.A.P. is an acronym for "Glock Automatic Pistol", and the .45 G.A.P. is the first commercially-introduced cartridge identified with Glock.

Four state law enforcement agencies have adopted the .45 G.A.P. as a replacement to their current issue 9x19mm's (NY) or .40 S&W service handguns (GA, PA, SC). The New York State Police, Georgia State Patrol, Pennsylvania State Police, Florida Highway Patrol and South Carolina Highway Patrol have all adopted the Glock 37 and .45 G.A.P.

Due to its acceptance by law enforcement and the popularity of subcompact handguns for concealed carry, more manufacturers have decided to produce pistols chambered in .45 G.A.P. including some Para-Ordnance M1911. Springfield Armory produced the XD line in .45 G.A.P but has since ceased manufacturing of the pistol in .45 GAP caliber.

The other manufacturers ceased manufacturing due to very small LE market, no doubt.

[CHS]

You couldn't be any more wrong.

Show me a pistol that fits a full size 45 ACP round into the standard 9mm sized frame. The XD45 fails hard - it's a friggin brick. M&P45? Nope. P220 vs p225? Still doesn't quite cut it. Historically, .45 frames are much larger (therefore more uncomfortable) than 9mm frames. The 45 GAP is revolutionary in that it closely mimics ACP performance in a 9mm frame. You might not find it useful, but it is VERY useful for people who prefer smaller grips. It used to be that I'd you wanted a comfortable 45 you had to get a 1911. now there's a much more modern, effective solution. Ammo cost is a moot point if you reload, like any serious shooter should.

That's a bunch of BS. All Glock had to do was change their grip angle and they could have fit real .45acp in the same size frame as a .45gap.

Again, it was invented to address the shortcomings of the Glock frame design, not the other way around.

If you can't disagree with someone without resorting to that type of comment, please don't bother to post.

[tuna quesadilla]

But why would they want to change the grip angle? It's what makes a Glock a Glock. It's what makes Glocks so natural to point and so easy to control during recoil. If they changed the grip angle the pistol would suck.

[Vin496]

But why would they want to change the grip angle? It's what makes a Glock a Glock. It's what makes Glocks so natural to point and so easy to control during recoil. If they changed the grip angle the pistol would suck.

That's completely a personal opinion as many dislike the Glock grip angle.

[mblat]

That's completely a personal opinion as many dislike the Glock grip angle.

Exactly - grip angle is pretty much the only thing that keeps me from joining "glock club". Just don't seem natural to me.
.45 GAP was a wonderful idea, IMHO...... too bad it didn't catch up.

That's a bunch of BS. All Glock had to do was change their grip angle and they could have fit real .45acp in the same size frame as a .45gap.

Again, it was invented to address the shortcomings of the Glock frame design, not the other way around.

Really? I don't know much about it - so can you provide some references for it? From what I see .45ACP is simply too long to fit in the same frame as 9x19, while .45 GAP isn't. Where I am wrong?

[dbear22]

I like the feel of the glock just was not sure about the caliber thanks for the feedback

[Mr. Meeseeks]

Yeah, too bad it didn't catch on. Lots of exciting guns could have come of it. Oh well...

[xbimmers]

I agree...it would suck so back..it would be an XD...I know..I have both....Glocks are perfect the way they are and have been progressing IMO>>>>

But why would they want to change the grip angle? It's what makes a Glock a Glock. It's what makes Glocks so natural to point and so easy to control during recoil. If they changed the grip angle the pistol would suck.