Are HST rounds hard to come by these days? In particular 9mm & .45
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Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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Rumor has it that Federal started cracking down on civilian sales. Only shipping directly to agencies. That leaves companies like ATG limited to buying excess inventory from cash strapped departments. That would explain the huge price increase over 18 months."Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--
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i can say as to general sale of ammunition. i am more confused than ever. having recently moved to OK and seeing the stock available. ammo in all brands and calibers are readily available here. the only thing i cant find is win pdx1 in 9mm. and even the online vendors are out of that. but the shelves are stocked to the top around here. which leaves me wondering, why not in california? most stores would get off brand or small shipments when i was in cali. and i was told by a couple store owners that "were just buying what ever we can get". it cant simply be that its getting bought too fast.Natural selection has arrived!!!Comment
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Streichers has it
The online vendor Streichers Police Equipment has Federal HST:
Federal 9mm HST at Streichers
Federal .40 S&W HST at Streichers
Federal .45 ACP HST at Streichers
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My last road trip showed CA, AZ, NM out of almost all ammo. Maybe more people are stockpiling? My father in law knew retired folks who get in right when the shipments to Walmart arrive and buy everything.
i can say as to general sale of ammunition. i am more confused than ever. having recently moved to OK and seeing the stock available. ammo in all brands and calibers are readily available here. the only thing i cant find is win pdx1 in 9mm. and even the online vendors are out of that. but the shelves are stocked to the top around here. which leaves me wondering, why not in california? most stores would get off brand or small shipments when i was in cali. and i was told by a couple store owners that "were just buying what ever we can get". it cant simply be that its getting bought too fast.Comment
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Inside jobs.
Bob is friends with Joe who works at WM... or Bob slips Joe a $20 every week.
When the shipment shows up, Joe calls Bob and lets him know what they have and asks what he wants, stashes that in the stockroom. Bob shows up and Joe rings the sale. Bob walks out with as much ammo as he wants. The registers don't enforce the 6-box limit, the cashier does, but since Bob is paying Joe the equivalent of 2-4 hours pay, Joe rings it up.
There are gun shops in OC with WM tags still on their boxes.
And yes... guys are buying WM ammo and selling it here on CGN at a profit.- Rich

Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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WTF did Federal "crack down?" Why aren't they increasing shipments to take advantage of increased demand?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson
9mm + 5.56mm =
.45ACP + 7.62 NATO =

10mm + 6.8 SPC =
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Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis; Jn 1:14Comment
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Yes, HST has been really hard to come by in the past year. You will see a couple places online get it every now and then but I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen them in stock at online retailers in significant quantity.
You can try and substitute Winchester Ranger T instead, which is easier to find than HST's.Comment
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