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  • thawein1856
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 160

    1911 Trigger Weight

    So I'm getting my SA 1911 Loaded a trigger job and I wanted to get some feedback on what type of pull (lbs) I should be going for. I am a recreational shooter, this is not for carry or defense, I've considered competitions but that wouldn't be for at least 2 years and I would likely upgrade if I did to a Baer. What do you guys like? I ws thinking 4.5 -5 Lbs. any suggestions?

    Thanks.
    WEIN
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    razr
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 1415

    Go for a 3-3.5 crisp.
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    • #3
      Voo
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 1702

      I just used my buddy's digital trigger gauge to measure the force on my Springfield 1911 and it's roughly 3.5 pounds of force. Under the duress of a timer, I have no idea what the trigger weight is. The best shooters I know cannot tell either when competing in IPSC style events.

      I would cater the trigger to what you personally want. If thats 5 lbs..so be it..if its 2.5 thats fine as well.

      The guys i shoot often run 2-3 lbs triggers in their guns. I dont really recommend this for everyone, but it's not unreasonable if you're comfortable with it. I think you'll be fine with anything from 3-4 lbs. Also keep in mind things like take up slack, over travel, wiggle, crispness in the trigger. etc etc- If you care about these things, make sure the gunsmith doing the trigger work understands your concerns so that when you get the trigger, its' setup the way you like...
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      • #4
        DougJ
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 1812

        My Kimber Pro Carry is a very crisp 4lb 3oz, seems about right, or perhaps you could argue very slightly on the light side to me for an SD pistol. If you're exclusively punching holes in paper and whatnot I'm sure you could go lighter and be happy.

        It a personal preference thing though. Most important of course is that nice clean break.
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        • #5
          sammy
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 3847

          Originally posted by razr
          Go for a 3-3.5 crisp.
          I agree. Anything lighter than a crisp 3# trigger is not going to help your shooting. That would be for a range gun. If this were an all around gun that would be used for home defense I would keep the pull around 4lbs.

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          • #6
            razr
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 1415

            1911 has one of, if not the best triggers of any pistol. A 1.2 lbs pull is an absolute JOY! If you know what you're doing. Unless you are an experienced shooter don't go below 3 lbs., you'll live longer. Anything over 4.5 lbs is an insult to a 1911, get a double action revolver instead. Once you become proficient, trust me, you could tell the difference between a 2.5 and 3 lbs pull. Majority of people have it at 3.5 to 4.5 lbs, cause its safe and feels normal to them.
            3 to 3.5 lbs will help you concentrate on your sight more so than squeezing your trigger. Make sure your gunsmith has worked on 1911s.
            Don't take refuge in the false security of consensus.
            What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.
            Nothing worse than an overrated F*** and an underrated S***
            iF it'S nOt an aCt of goD, iT's a ConSpirAcy. If it can be measured, it can be optimized.
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            • #7
              Capt_Communist
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 851

              Originally posted by sammy
              I agree. Anything lighter than a crisp 3# trigger is not going to help your shooting. That would be for a range gun. If this were an all around gun that would be used for home defense I would keep the pull around 4lbs.
              +1

              3-4 is a good setting

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              • #8
                sholling
                I need a LIFE!!
                CGN Contributor
                • Sep 2007
                • 10360

                My philosophy for 1911 triggers is 4-6.5lbs for a self defense pistol, 3-4.5lbs for a target pistol with 4-4.5lbs the sweet spot for the average shooter shooting a mixed use pistol. That's where I'd have it set.
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                • #9
                  DougJ
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1812

                  Originally posted by sholling
                  My philosophy for 1911 triggers is 4-6.5lbs for a self defense pistol, 3-4.5lbs for a target pistol with 4-4.5lbs the sweet spot for the average shooter shooting a mixed use pistol. That's where I'd have it set.
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                  • #10
                    sholling
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 10360

                    I'll add one more thing. If you need a 1911's trigger any lighter than 4 or 4.5lbs to hit what you're aiming at quickly and reliably then you need a lot more trigger time and not more gunsmithing. Stick with a safe pull weight.
                    Last edited by sholling; 01-10-2010, 8:04 PM.
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                    • #11
                      railroader
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3115

                      My kimber trigger is at about 3lbs. which is great for a range gun. I would consider it too light for home defense but it is great for shooting paper or shooting pistol matches. So I would say between 3 and 4lbs. for your springer. Mark

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                      • #12
                        3GunFunShooter
                        In Memoriam
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 2408

                        My S&W 1911 is about 4 lbs. My Para 16/40 is a little over 3 lbs. The Para is competition. The S&W is a great range or HD pistol. The Para is strickly for competition, or SHTF.
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                        • #13
                          JTROKS
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 13093

                          I have my Para/STI 40 S&W at 2.5 lbs for USPSA matches. My open guns are at 2 lbs.
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                          • #14
                            Kiba
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 757

                            I have 1.2 lb triggers on both my STI 2011s; my first 2011 was like that when I bought it and I had my 2nd one worked to match the first one as that's what I was used to by that point. They're really nice but too light for most guys. While they feel great dry firing if you don't have good trigger control you'll probably end up doubling or tripling the gun when actually firing it.

                            I let another "frequent flyer" who I always see at my local range try my .40 limited gun on a day I was doing load development and he doubled it on the very first try-- scared him pretty good. A few friends who I have let shoot them had the same experience... which is why I only load the mag up with 2 for the first couple of tries to make sure they have control over their finger. They're a joy to shoot but not forgiving of poor finger control. I haven't surprised myself (yet) with a unintended double/triple but I have to admit it is something I always have bouncing around in the back of my mind just because the triggers are so light.

                            Also, once you get the triggers down that light they need "tweaking" and a little touchup work every 2K +/- rounds. If you keep them over 2 lbs they last substantially longer between touchups. Next time around I'll probably put them at around the 2.5 lb mark.

                            All that being said I'd take a crisp 4 lb trigger with no take up, no overtravel, and a good reset any day of the week over a vague, crunchy, excessive overtravel, or otherwise sloppy 1.5 lb trigger. As Voo mentioned there's a lot more to the overall "feel" of the trigger than just the pull weight. Given your requirements I'd say razr's recommendation is good... go somewhere around 3.5 lbs and make sure it's a very clean break with no overtravel and a good reset.
                            Last edited by Kiba; 01-10-2010, 10:32 PM.

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                            • #15
                              subin
                              Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 170

                              yep, 3~4 lbs.

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