Help with M&P sales to CA

[AMDG]

There is no SKU on the DOJ website. The guns are listed by barrel length and features. The inportant ones are mag safety and 10 rounds. If you search S&W's site, they list the SKU's for Cali compliant models. If you start doing these, I would be in for a 40... The info below is copied from the DOJ site. I would avoid the internal lock versions, as most people do not want the lock. There are exceptions. A mag safety gun with 17 round mags could be shipped here if the mags were swaped out for 10 round versions. I have had it done.

Another alternative is to send the 17 rounder's disassembled into parts kits for those who already have them or would like to use them out of state.

[missiondude]

Another alternative is to send the 17 rounder's disassembled into parts kits for those who already have them or would like to use them out of state.

Those that already have them can have them shipped in complete as they would have to be exempt from the 10 round limit. I dont know of any M&P mags that existed prior to 2000....

Now if someone can show me how to turn a 3 gen S&W auto mag into something that will work in a M&P I have many circa 1989 15 round 5906 mags that I would be willing to convert...

[AMDG]

Those that already have them can have them shipped in complete as they would have to be exempt from the 10 round limit. I dont know of any M&P mags that existed prior to 2000....

Non-LEO's can come into possession of 10+ round magazines that did not exist before 2000 without breaking the law (or conspiring to break the law). I personally know of several instances. In such a case, they would need to have the 17-rounders disassembled.

[Shenaniguns]

This is what I thought.

We won't be stocking them with internal locks and will have the 10rd mags available for swapping.


C4

Now you tell me

[smarter]

I'd definitely would be interested in some 17 rnd mag rebuild kits for m&p 9. Keep us updated!!

[RT13]

I just got my MP45 for $569. But they normally sell around $659.

[slik556]

Non-LEO's can come into possession of 10+ round magazines that did not exist before 2000 without breaking the law (or conspiring to break the law). I personally know of several instances. In such a case, they would need to have the 17-rounders disassembled.

Can you give me an example of this?

[AMDG]

Can you give me an example of this?

Sure, I'll give you a two, but I know of more:

1. Purchaser buys gun at FFL. Purchaser goes home after pickup and, upon inspection, discovers that the magazines are +10. This has come up several times on Calguns.

2. Firearm Owner purchases a firearm for which standard capacity magazines are +10. Truly ignorant of CA law, Firearm Owner's relative who lives in a free state sends Firearm Owner standard capacity magazines for Firearm Owner's birthday, which Firearm Owner was truly not expecting.

The FFL in example 1 and the Firearm Owner's ignorant relative in example 2 broke the law, but neither Purchaser nor Firearm Owner broke the law. Now, you might call BS on Firearm Owner not knowing what was coming, which, if he/she did, would be committing conspiracy to import (if not being guilty of importation directly), but, if you accept the facts as presented (innocent until proven guilty), then Firearm Owner has come into possession +10 capacity magazines without breaking the law.

[JustinStrife]

Thanks for the info. Is there a list of SKU's that are allowed?

We generally sell M&P's for around $450. So I am wondering if this price will be of interest to folks.

C4

I'd definitely be interested in both full size and compact in .40 S/W for this price.

[paco ramirez]

Grant, any chance you'll have this set up before August?

[kimo308]

Just got my M&P45 and lovin it. May want a M&P9 compact next.

[Sam]

Sure, I'll give you a two, but I know of more:

1. Purchaser buys gun at FFL. Purchaser goes home after pickup and, upon inspection, discovers that the magazines are +10. This has come up several times on Calguns.

2. Firearm Owner purchases a firearm for which standard capacity magazines are +10. Truly ignorant of CA law, Firearm Owner's relative who lives in a free state sends Firearm Owner standard capacity magazines for Firearm Owner's birthday, which Firearm Owner was truly not expecting.

The FFL in example 1 and the Firearm Owner's ignorant relative in example 2 broke the law, but neither Purchaser nor Firearm Owner broke the law. Now, you might call BS on Firearm Owner not knowing what was coming, which, if he/she did, would be committing conspiracy to import (if not being guilty of importation directly), but, if you accept the facts as presented (innocent until proven guilty), then Firearm Owner has come into possession +10 capacity magazines without breaking the law.

See 12020 (a)(1):
Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.

Any set of facts that gets a "high capacity magazine" into California that doesn't break that law would be legal.

[AMDG]

See 12020 (a)(1):
Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.

Any set of facts that gets a "high capacity magazine" into California that doesn't break that law would be legal.

Thank you. I lot of people don't seem to get this.

[bwiese]

Thank you. I lot of people don't seem to get this.

A lot of folks are playing stupid word games that may well not hold up in court, either.

[Shenaniguns]

A lot of folks are playing stupid word games that may well not hold up in court, either.

That sounds like the problem many are having regarding expandable batons as well...