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  • #16
    Ryan HBC
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 540

    I might just be really tired, but I swear I just saw someone say the the 5.7 is more lethal than a .44 mag.

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    • #17
      billyjoblack
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 570

      I shot LE&MILITARY ONLY marked ammo threw my 5.7 at a PASGT helmet (DID NOT PENETRATE)

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      • #18
        leelaw
        Junior Member
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 10445

        First, the guy is overcharging you by a couple hundred, unless that's for the IOM version.

        The specifications he gave on the ammo as to armor piercing, is only possible with the LEO/Mil ONLY ammunition. I've verified that SS192 and SS195LF will penetrate through a level II vest, but level III defeats the round.

        Just about everything else is correct. It's a nice gun, and I enjoy shooting mine very much.



        The obligatory 5-7 pic

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        • #19
          ivanimal
          Janitors assistant
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Sep 2002
          • 14364

          Bar none the coolest gun I own

          I keep threatening to start reloading for it. My problem is the lack of good reload info on the case and horror stories from people doing test loads.

          Low recoil and accuracy are the main things that I like followed by light and ergonomic. People buy guns for different reasons. I have a 38 special for home defense so the anti personel aspects of the gun do not excite me. I think it would be hell on squirell though.
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          • #20
            ZapThyCat
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 2610

            Well overall it sounds like a really cool gun, and even with the "lines" that the dealer was giving me, it still sounds like a gun that I would really want to get.

            It a lot more appealing to me as well, when I look at a $750 price tag instead of $1150. Gunbroker is always cheaper than real-life sellers.

            If someone around has a place to shoot one, I'd love to take a few shots sometime. I'd gladly buy my own ammo...

            THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS!
            ~Jarrod~

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            • #21
              Franksremote
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Dec 2006
              • 992

              Saw this posted on 5.7.com, evidently they work pretty well on ground hogs



              They've got reload data as well. http://fivesevenforum.com/forums/sho...ight=reloading

              I'd be interested in reloading for this round as well, can you let me know how your tests go?

              Originally posted by ivanimal
              Bar none the coolest gun I own

              I keep threatening to start reloading for it. My problem is the lack of good reload info on the case and horror stories from people doing test loads.

              Low recoil and accuracy are the main things that I like followed by light and ergonomic. People buy guns for different reasons. I have a 38 special for home defense so the anti personel aspects of the gun do not excite me. I think it would be hell on squirell though.
              It is a really cool gun! Most outdoor ranges allow the round and Jackson Arms in SSF does for indoor ranges. We're heading to LARnG today, if you can make it, let me know and I'll bring my USG. You're welcome to send a few downrange.

              Originally posted by ZapThyCat
              Well overall it sounds like a really cool gun, and even with the "lines" that the dealer was giving me, it still sounds like a gun that I would really want to get.

              It a lot more appealing to me as well, when I look at a $750 price tag instead of $1150. Gunbroker is always cheaper than real-life sellers.

              If someone around has a place to shoot one, I'd love to take a few shots sometime. I'd gladly buy my own ammo...

              THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS!
              Last edited by Franksremote; 02-16-2007, 8:39 AM.

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              • #22
                dragonbait1a
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 596

                On the reloading front, what bullets would you use? Do Standard .223 (like reloading for .223 Remington) work?

                Or, is this a strange diameter that is harder to find.

                Academic for me as I have no capacity for reloading and no 5.7 to reload for. But useful info all the same.

                RGB
                Survival and Shooting Blog

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                • #23
                  Rumpled
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1636

                  I don't reload 5.7, but as I understand, they are standard .223 bullets; in the light weights. 25 and 40 gr I think.

                  I keep repeating this, but I think FN should make a subcompact of this in a 10 rd configuration. That would be a great lightweight carry gun; very low weight, 10 rd capacity, hi velocity pistol round with good penetration for SD.

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                  • #24
                    ivanimal
                    Janitors assistant
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 14364

                    I am a member of the five seven forums, The only powder I was interested in using based on members results was the Power Pistol. It seems accurate decided to discontinue it, I have looked for it as it is recently dropped but no luck yet. I suppose I will try again with a different powder.

                    I bought 500 40 grain vmax and 200 35 grain speer match for projectiles. I will se which I like and go from there.
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                    • #25
                      wooger
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1380

                      Is SS192 is legal to have in CA?
                      vatr slapn

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                      • #26
                        Rumpled
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 1636

                        SS192 is legal in CA, even though FN pulled it from the market.
                        Here's a good rundown on 5.7 ammo


                        Civies can have 192, 195,196,197 Not sure about the 194 training round.
                        192 and 196 have been discountinued as well, but you can find it and it is legal.

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                        • #27
                          rocknut
                          Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 207

                          The 195 and 197 are what you want anyway.

                          I love the idea of a compact version. I'd be curious what would happen to the velocities out of a shorter barrel though.

                          I don't know if I've ever let anyone shoot the gun who didn't offer to buy or trade it off of me... Not kidding...

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                          • #28
                            luvtolean
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 2063

                            Originally posted by rocknut
                            I don't know if I've ever let anyone shoot the gun who didn't offer to buy or trade it off of me... Not kidding...
                            I'm not sure I'd squeeze a couple rounds off through one if offered...I just know I'd end up DROS'ing one almost immediately.

                            Bottleneck, high pressure rounds in pistols are just fun...

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                            • #29
                              rips31
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 983

                              Originally posted by Rumpled
                              SS192 is legal in CA, even though FN pulled it from the market.
                              Here's a good rundown on 5.7 ammo


                              Civies can have 192, 195,196,197 Not sure about the 194 training round.
                              192 and 196 have been discountinued as well, but you can find it and it is legal.
                              t194 isn't legal.

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                              • #30
                                Rumpled
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 1636

                                rips31
                                That's what I thought, but wasn't positive. I understand it has been discontinued as well.

                                195 is my preferred round, as close to the original intended purpose as possible.

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