PPT Question

[The Crunch]

Hey all,

I recently purchased an off-list .45 (3 weeks ago). I now want another .45 i like better. My question is whether i can PPT the off-list gun to a friend. I heard somewhere that I could not do that before 6 months. Is this true? I could not find that law anywhere, if it exists.

Thanks for the help guys.

[ke6guj]

there is no time-line mentioned in CA or federal law that states you must hold on to a firearm for a certain period of time before you may re-sell it.

However, if it is felt that you are acting as an unlicensed dealer by "flipping" firearms, you could have problems.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Hey all,

I recently purchased an off-list .45 (3 weeks ago). I now want another .45 i like better. My question is whether i can PPT the off-list gun to a friend. I heard somewhere that I could not do that before 6 months. Is this true? I could not find that law anywhere, if it exists.

Thanks for the help guys.

There is no "six month rule" or anything like that. If you no longer want a firearm that you own, you can sell it right away, even if you just bought it that day. You can only get into trouble if you show a pattern of repeatedly buying and then selling firearms or if you have too many sale transactions in a year.

When you say "off-list" are you talking about the safe handgun roster?

[lorax3]

Yes, you can PPT your off-list handgun to your friend. There is a 1 in 30 day handgun limit, although Private Party Transfers are exempt.

There is no 'six month rule'. You are however limited to less than six handguns transactions per year.

EDIT: Haha. This is what happens when all three of us post at the same time.

[The Crunch]

Ok thank you guys. The responses answered my question.

Mssr., it's a Taurus PT1911 ALR. Someone had mentioned i should verify the law because its not on the CA "approved" list. I bought it and like it but i actually am going to pick up the Kimber Custom 2 for $750!!!!

I love this forum; everyone is so knowledgeable. thanks again.

[Ducman]

WAIT!! on the other thread, you mentioned you are a LEO, It's a totally different ballgame. Not sure how it goes I guess it depends on your department. I read somewhere that you have to wait 6 months as I've said not really sure w/ LEO policy maybe check w/ your chief or someone knowledgable can chime in. sometimes a few unmentioned info can make a difference.

[CSACANNONEER]

Yes, you can PPT your off-list handgun to your friend. There is a 1 in 30 day handgun limit, although Private Party Transfers are exempt.

There is no 'six month rule'. You are however limited to less than six handguns transactions per year.

EDIT: Haha. This is what happens when all three of us post at the same time.

PPTs are not exempt from the 1 per 30 rule in the City of Los Angeles and, maybe other municipalities as well. The OP can sell it to anyone via PPT but, the buyer could run into the 1 gun/30 day thing inside of LA.

[nn3453]

WAIT!! on the other thread, you mentioned you are a LEO, It's a totally different ballgame. Not sure how it goes I guess it depends on your department. I read somewhere that you have to wait 6 months as I've said not really sure w/ LEO policy maybe check w/ your chief or someone knowledgable can chime in. sometimes a few unmentioned info can make a difference.

+1. I once had discussion about the LEO exemption/PPT transactions with a cop acquaintance. He said many departments have policies on transferring guns to non LE. Especially if it is an off roster gun. No department wants allegations in the press that officers are buying guns and flipping them to civilians.

[Cokebottle]

He bought it 3 weeks ago.... He only has another week to wait to begin another DROS.

Give the seller a "deposit" so he doesn't sell it out from under you (if you trust the seller) and do the transfer next week.

[lorax3]

PPTs are not exempt from the 1 per 30 rule in the City of Los Angeles

You are correct, although I often do not mention local ordinances as that one does not apply to me so I never remember it. Although I appreciate the input.

For example, in San Diego every gun an FFL sells must have a trigger lock attached to the gun before it leaves the FFL. So the safe affidavit doesn't cut it. I do not think many local FFL's here even know about that one.

[Librarian]

You are correct, although I often do not mention local ordinances as that one does not apply to me so I never remember it. Although I appreciate the input.

For example, in San Diego every gun an FFL sells must have a trigger lock attached to the gun before it leaves the FFL. So the safe safe affidavit doesn't cut it. I do not think many local FFL's here even know about that one.

I just love local ordinances. They make life so much simpler.

But as you say, City of San Diego has that law:

any firearm without also providing with the firearm a trigger locking or similar device approved by the Chief of Police.

It also has exceptions:

(g) The requirements in sections 33.4212(a),(b), and (c) shall not apply to firearms that are curios or relics, as defined by federal law, Title 27 Code of Federal Regulations section 178.

(h) The requirements in sections 33.4212(a), (b) and (c) shall not apply to firearms dealers when they are involved in private party transfers conducted pursuant to California Penal Code section 12082.

[slik556]

He bought it 3 weeks ago.... He only has another week to wait to begin another DROS.

Give the seller a "deposit" so he doesn't sell it out from under you (if you trust the seller) and do the transfer next week.

He doesn't have to do any of that. He, by the sound of the other posts is a LEO, if he is or if he isn't is no thing. He can ppt as many as he wants unless he lives in a place like LA.