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  • Steev
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 5

    PPT question: Required ID's

    Hi guys,

    I lurk around here once in a while and have used the FAQ's to build myself an AR (rifle length Stag) thanks to you guys. However, I have a question about PPTs.

    As a seller, will I need to show my driver's license and proof of residency again? I have a G17 that sits unused and I'd looking to sell it and get some sort of .22 caliber rifle.
  • #2
    Gio
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 10251

    If you are the seller all you need is your DL, if you are the buyer then you need DL and SPOR. Not hard,

    -Gio
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    • #3
      thefurball
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 610

      Call the FFL and ask to be certain of what they want and what they will or will not accept as far as ID.

      Two minutes on the phone can save a lot of headaches.

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      • #4
        Steev
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 5

        Yeah, just called the FFL. Seller only needs DL. Buyer needs ID, proof of residency, and HSC in the case of a handgun.

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        • #5
          bmb29035
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 50

          I know it's probably obvious, but it must be a permanent *California* driver's license or DMV issued ID. No temporaries allowed. No passports allowed. No out-of-state IDs allowed.

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          • #6
            Shane916
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2006
            • 5004

            Originally posted by Steev
            Yeah, just called the FFL. Seller only needs DL. Buyer needs ID, proof of residency, and HSC in the case of a handgun.
            That sounds correct.

            Side note: Some places also require a new lock to be purchased/receipt presented by the buyer for PPT's.

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            • #7
              Ducman
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 2107

              also, as a seller.make sure your address on your ID is not a P.O box,Don't know if this is Turners policy but I have a friend who purchased a handgun and they required the seller to have a physical address.I'm assuming it's not because they were able to do a PPT at another FFL.
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              • #8
                Shane916
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2006
                • 5004

                Originally posted by Ducman
                also, as a seller.make sure your address on your ID is not a P.O box,Don't know if this is Turners policy but I have a friend who purchased a handgun and they required the seller to have a physical address.I'm assuming it's not because they were able to do a PPT at another FFL.
                It's Law. 4473 even states no P.O Boxes

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                • #9
                  ke6guj
                  Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 23725

                  The 4473 does not say that you can't have a P.O.Box on your DL, but that if you do not have your current physical address on the ID, that you have to provide POR thad does have your physical address on it. And the 4473 rules don't even apply to the seller in a PPT, just the buyer.
                  Last edited by ke6guj; 11-24-2009, 3:32 PM.
                  Jack



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                  • #10
                    Ducman
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2107

                    Originally posted by ke6guj
                    The 4473 does not say that you can't have a P.O.Box on your DL, but that if you do not have your current physical address on the ID, that you have to provide POR thad does have your physical address on it. And the 4473 rules don't even apply to the seller in a PPT, just the buyer.
                    That's what I thought, why the other FFL able to do it and not Turners???
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                    • #11
                      ke6guj
                      Moderator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 23725

                      Originally posted by Ducman
                      That's what I thought, why the other FFL able to do it and not Turners???
                      I'm not sure. I don't know of any CA regs that require you to have a physical address on the ID when selling a firearm.
                      Jack



                      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                      • #12
                        djleisure
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 4734

                        What if you just moved and have a proof of residency at the new address, but you haven't gotten around to updating your CA driver's license just yet? So, CA DL does NOT have current address... Oh and this is for purchasing, not selling.
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                        • #13
                          ke6guj
                          Moderator
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 23725

                          you just fill out the 4473 with your current address and use POR that confirms the current address.
                          Jack



                          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                          No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                          • #14
                            halifax
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 4440

                            Originally posted by ke6guj
                            I'm not sure. I don't know of any CA regs that require you to have a physical address on the ID when selling a firearm.
                            I just did a quick scan of my A/D book and don't see any P.O. Boxes where I record the sellers name and address. I guess I've never had a seller with a P.O. Box on their license. I think I'd at least ask them for a physical address but not require any "proof" of such. I'd also change it on the DROS form just in case there is some requirement to record the physical address of the seller too.
                            Jim


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                            • #15
                              Johnny?
                              Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 238

                              If your not a US citizen, you need to bring your green card

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