Crimson trace

[GM4spd]

I have never used this system before---my only question is the red dot
visible @25 yds in daylight if I just want to plink at steel plates? Not
doing any serious bullyseye paperwork. Thanks Pete

[GB0]

In my experience, no, the red laser is not strong enough to be visible at 25 yards in broad daylight. Over-cast or foggy days will be visible at that distance though, and at night it's plenty bright.

My 1911 has no night sights so I got the CT's for that, and also studying trigger habits. If you have a flinch or bad grip, the CT grips will sort it out in a hurry.



Green laser will do over 25 yards in bright day light.


EDIT: The only complaint I have about the CT's on a 1911, is that the beam hits my slide stop lever, or the rounded protrusion on the right side, it makes the beam refract to a certain extent. Ambi-safetys need to modified also if your 1911 has one, for use with CT's.

[Jonathan Doe]

Laser sights will not help you at all if you cannot control your trigger pull. I have seen plenty of examples.

[tiko]

I got CT on my 686, at 25 yards with sunlight, I need black bulleye paper target so the red dot is visible.

[El Gato]

love my crimson trace... for night shooting...not for daylight shooting... that's what the irons are for.... the laser is like a super night sight without tritium but with batteries.... just got mine a month ago and have shot it several times at night... wonderment.. but during the day it is nothing to get excited about... you will spend too much time looking for the stupid dot... look for the front sight and press the trigger without moving the gun... that's the secret boys.. press the trigger without movin' the smokewagon...

[bigcalidave]

Have you tried to find out how much faster you can get the first shot off if you JUST look for the dot on target, even before you can bring the sight completely in line? The laser can be great in the daylight as well! Obviously most people really like the lasergrips, I'm one.

[pipboy]

In bright daylight, the laser is already difficult to see at 10-15 yards. At 25, you will really have to struggle to see it, so much so it's just easier to use irons at that point.

I love the crimson trace grips, and they definitely have their function/advantages (such as getting on target fast from retention up close or shooting longer distance at night) but plinking steel at 25 yards in daylight is not one of them.

[GB0]

Laser sights will not help you at all if you cannot control your trigger pull. I have seen plenty of examples.

Laser sights will definitely help you with trigger pull; if you aim at a wall and squeeze, you can see your bad grip or flinch make the red dot veer or stray from your target or point of aim upon trigger pull, if you have a problem.

I would not be hitting anything consistently if it weren't for the CT laser grips, they were what alerted me to my habit of pushing the gun left with the trigger pull. I'm not sure I would have figured out why I was always high and to the left otherwise, or without expensive courses or instruction.

I use the iron sights in the day though, and use the CT's as an aid, not a crutch, but if something goes bump in the night, thanks to CT's, I can now see in the dark.

[Afterburnt]

There is a place for laser handgun sites, about 20 feet inside of the house. That is where I have mine zeroed and that was a pita on the range, friggin needle sized allen wrench!