Finders fee of $100 to whoever

[fourtyounce48]

Locates a kahr p380 for me in norcal and I complete the ppt. Thanks.

[fourtyounce48]

Would it be a safe assumption that's it's nearly impossible to get a Kahr P380 in Cali?

[SJgunguy24]

Would it be a safe assumption that's it's nearly impossible to get a Kahr P380 in Cali?

Don't assume anything untill you check the safe handgun list with DOJ.
If it's on there you can get it.

[Joe]

Its not listed as approved. Its "nearly impossible" cause you can only get one from ppt from a LEO.

[Dangerpin]

From http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

There are 37 matching records for Kahr Arms
The matching records list is sorted by Model
This list is valid for Thursday, November 05, 2009

Model Gun Type Barrel Length Caliber Exp Date
Auto-Ordnance 1911 WGS Deluxe / Blued Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 3/12/2010
Auto-Ordnance T1911 STD / Blued Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 3/12/2010
CW9093 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.5" 9mm 1/4/2010
K4043A / Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" .40 S&W 2/26/2010
K4043NA / Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" .40 S&W 2/26/2010
K4048A / Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" .40 S&W 4/4/2010
K4048NA / Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" .40 S&W 4/4/2010
K9093A / Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" 9mm 2/26/2010
K9093NA / Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" 9mm 2/26/2010
K9098A / Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" 9mm 4/4/2010
K9098NA / Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" 9mm 4/4/2010
KP4043 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.54" .40 S&W 6/30/2010
KP4043N / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.54" .40 S&W 6/30/2010
KP4044 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.54" .40 S&W 7/29/2010
KP4044N / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.54" .40 S&W 7/29/2010
KP4543 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.5" .45 ACP 2/6/2010
KP4543N / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.5" .45 ACP 2/6/2010
KP4544 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.5" .45 ACP 9/6/2010
KP9093A / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.5" 9mm 3/15/2010
KP9093NA / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.5" 9mm 3/15/2010
KP9094A / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.5" 9mm 10/14/2010
KP9094NA / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.5" 9mm 10/14/2010
M4043A / Stainless Steel Pistol 3" .40 S&W 8/14/2010
M4043NA / Stainless Steel Pistol 3" .40 S&W 8/14/2010
M4048A / Stainless Steel Pistol 3" .40 S&W 9/5/2010
M4048NA / Stainless Steel Pistol 3" .40 S&W 9/5/2010
M9093A / Stainless Steel Pistol 3" 9mm 4/17/2010
M9093NA / Stainless Steel Pistol 3" 9mm 4/17/2010
M9098A / Stainless Steel Pistol 3" 9mm 6/16/2010
M9098NA / Stainless Steel Pistol 3" 9mm 6/16/2010
PM4043 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3" .40 S&W 1/5/2010
PM4043N / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3" .40 S&W 1/5/2010
PM4044 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3" .40 S&W 9/6/2010
PM9093A / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3" 9mm 6/23/2010
PM9093NA / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3" 9mm 6/23/2010
PM9094A / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3" 9mm 8/5/2010
PM9094NA / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3" 9mm 8/5/2010

[fourtyounce48]

I know that the gun is not on the approved roster and that the only way to get it would be to do a PPT. With that being said, do you think believe that there is a proliferation of this specific gun in the market in California.

[fourtyounce48]

Sorry for the misunderstanding. That is why I posted this instead of just going to a gun store and ordering said gun.

[reidnez]

What about having an out-of-state FFL convert it temporarily to single-shot, by way of a 'sled', and then shipping it to your receiving FFL? I know that is what the AR/AK pistol guys are doing, in order to be exempt from the roster. Worth a shot.

[fourtyounce48]

What about having an out-of-state FFL convert it temporarily to single-shot, by way of a 'sled', and then shipping it to your receiving FFL? I know that is what the AR/AK pistol guys are doing, in order to be exempt from the roster. Worth a shot.

Sorry can please elaborate your suggestion? This is legal, correct? Thanks.

[oaklander]

Barrel has to be a certain length. This is too short.

What about having an out-of-state FFL convert it temporarily to single-shot, by way of a 'sled', and then shipping it to your receiving FFL? I know that is what the AR/AK pistol guys are doing, in order to be exempt from the roster. Worth a shot.

[missiondude]

Barrel needs to be 6" and overall length of the gun needs to be 10-1/2" IIRC. More to it than sticking a non functional mag in the magwell. You would also need to find an FFL to receive the gun...

[reidnez]

Barrel needs to be 6" and overall length of the gun needs to be 10-1/2" IIRC. More to it than sticking a non functional mag in the magwell. You would also need to find an FFL to receive the gun...

Ahh, ok. Good info! I knew there was a single-shot exemption but I suspected there might be more to it than that.

Sorry OP, but your best bet might be to start thinking about whether you have any LEO's within your circle of friends

[fourtyounce48]

Ahh, ok. Good info! I knew there was a single-shot exemption but I suspected there might be more to it than that.

Sorry OP, but your best bet might be to start thinking about whether you have any LEO's within your circle of friends

I do but that would be illegal right? Straw purchase...

[Joe]

I do but that would be illegal right? Straw purchase...

No. He purchases it for himself. Then decides it isn't for him so He legally sells it to you. There is nothing illegal about this. A straw purchase is when you buy a gun for someone who is prohibited from owning a gun.

[reidnez]

No. He purchases it for himself. Then decides it isn't for him so He legally sells it to you. There is nothing illegal about this. A straw purchase is when you buy a gun for someone who is prohibited from owning a gun.

Exactly. A straw purchase means there is no secondary PPT, because the 'true' buyer is prohibited from owning firearms and would not pass the check.

The only way you can normally get in trouble with PPT's is if you do an excessive number of them within some timeframe, and BATFE decides that you are dealing in firearms without an FFL. There is nothing saying I can't buy a pistol today and PPT it to you 11 days later.