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  • 40calibermikey
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 15

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    Last edited by 40calibermikey; 02-06-2007, 7:33 PM.
  • #2
    aca72
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 3204

    Same issue with sig pro 2340 and sig pro 2022 .357/.40 mags. It can fit 12 rounds of 9mm for the sig pro 2009 and sig pro 2022 9mm pistols.

    Legality: may be illegal

    Actuallity: http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/SigProFAQ/III/8.html
    Long live CALGUNS!

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    • #3
      guimus
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2006
      • 862

      I've shot hundreds of rounds of 9mm out of my P229 using a 40-9mm stepdown barrel and the original 40sw mags. I've never tried putting more than 10 rounds in, but I'd imagine that 12 or 13 would go in. That's probably illegal in CA, and probably a little stupid, too.

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      • #4
        aca72
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 3204

        Obviously, this is illegal in CA: Installing a +2 floor plate on a 10-round Glock magazine to make it 12-round maximum capacity.

        Correct?

        But is this illegal?: replacing the follower of a 10-round Glock mag with an OEM "9mm3" follower to make it 11-round maximum capacity (but very tight fit).
        Long live CALGUNS!

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        • #5
          V3nomus
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 19

          doesn't that ruin the spring and cause the gun to jam?

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          • #6
            aca72
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 3204

            Originally posted by V3nomus
            doesn't that ruin the spring and cause the gun to jam?

            Maybe, but these probable magazine mods (illegal or legal) are not meant for self defense applications. I'd rather have a reliable 10-round mag than an unproven more-than-10-round-modified mag in a self defense situation.
            Long live CALGUNS!

            Selling: ✮ GLOCK ✮ Beretta ✮ SIG Sauer ✮ Stuff ✮

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            • #7
              railroader
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 3115

              XD 40 mags hold 15 rounds of 9mm and function. The problem is the slide will lock back with one round in the mag. This is solved by pinching the feedlips together about 20 thousands of an inch. This fixes the problem and the mag will work properly in both 40 cal guns and 9mm. I wouldn't consider this manufacturing a hicap mag because it still works in the 40 cal gun too. I personally have had to do adjustments on mag feedlips on other mags in the past so they would function properly. That said I wouldn't use a forty cal mag with 15 rounds in it for home defense but they sure work well for pistol matches I'm told. Mark

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              • #8
                megavolt121
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 1561

                Works for Glocks.

                It's not illegal because you are still in posession of a 10 round .40 S&W magazine. Then again I wouldn't use them for defense puproses when you know you'll need to talk to the cops.

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                • #9
                  JS-M1A
                  Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 187

                  Originally posted by railroader
                  XD 40 mags hold 15 rounds of 9mm and function. The problem is the slide will lock back with one round in the mag. This is solved by pinching the feedlips together about 20 thousands of an inch. This fixes the problem and the mag will work properly in both 40 cal guns and 9mm.
                  9rd 45Gap mags will hold 12rds of 40. No adjustment to the feedlips.
                  At least in the ones I have seen.

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                  • #10
                    RT13
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2006
                    • 1407

                    Alot of guns have interchangable mags which hold two or more different types of rounds. It's usually between the .40 s&w, .357 sig, and 9mm. Don't fill a .40 cal mag with more than ten rounds of 9mm for sure, regardless of how much more rounds it can hold in the smaller round. That is ILLEGAL! As far as just loading 9mm into a .40 cal mag, am not sure about it's legality, but do "assume" it would not be illegal, again because some mags are purposely made to hold or interchange rounds. Some magazines are exactly the same The followers are what makes the difference in how much you can load into the magazine body.

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                    • #11
                      guimus
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 862

                      Originally posted by megavolt121
                      Works for Glocks.

                      It's not illegal because you are still in posession of a 10 round .40 S&W magazine. Then again I wouldn't use them for defense puproses when you know you'll need to talk to the cops.

                      Not to mention that I'd rather have 11 rounds of 40s&w than 50 of 9mm if I had to use it against a person or two.

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                      • #12
                        wutzu
                        Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 325

                        WHY would it be illegal to use a 40sw or 45gap mag to hold more than ten rounds of 9mm? The law states very clearly that manufacturing, importing, selling, lending or giving high capacity ammunition feeding devices is illegal.

                        Not "loading" not "owning" not "using" and (surprisingly!) not "buying"

                        So using a 40 mag to hold 9mil? you haven't imported it, you haven't sold it, you haven't loaned it. And even if you have, it's still a 10 round magazine for 40sw, which is probably how it's marked on the magazine body anyway.

                        Swapping out a follower to get an 11th round? ILLEGAL. And the same thing with +2 floorplates. But using a magazine, without modifying it, can't even be considered manufacturing. And so what if you bend the lips? maybe you dropped it...maybe it was like that when you bought it. Maybe it's irrelevant, because it doesn't in any way change the number of rounds that fit into the magazine.

                        Knowing the law, and following it to the LETTER, as opposed to what DOJ says is the "spirit" is why we have OLL today. Keep that in mind.
                        If you're not a resident of California, please don't waste your time trying to sell handguns here. A: your handgun is not on the approved list, and can't be sold here or B: We can already get it here with less hassle.

                        Thank you CGF and Leadership FFLs for NeRFing the roster!

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                        • #13
                          Ryan HBC
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 540

                          Same with Bertta 96 mags in the 92. My understanding is that it was perfectly legal.

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                          • #14
                            shooterx10
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 627

                            Originally posted by wutzu
                            WHY would it be illegal to use a 40sw or 45gap mag to hold more than ten rounds of 9mm? The law states very clearly that manufacturing, importing, selling, lending or giving high capacity ammunition feeding devices is illegal.

                            So using a 40 mag to hold 9mil? you haven't imported it, you haven't sold it, you haven't loaned it. And even if you have, it's still a 10 round magazine for 40sw, which is probably how it's marked on the magazine body anyway.

                            Swapping out a follower to get an 11th round? ILLEGAL. And the same thing with +2 floorplates. But using a magazine, without modifying it, can't even be considered manufacturing. And so what if you bend the lips? maybe you dropped it...maybe it was like that when you bought it. Maybe it's irrelevant, because it doesn't in any way change the number of rounds that fit into the magazine.
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                            +1 on Wutzu said!

                            So long as you did NOT do any modifications to the mag itself (swap springs, followers, or attach mag extensions), then you should be in the clear to use the 40 10 round XD mag in the 9mm XD pistols.

                            If anyone goes this route, I suggest you also purchase a 40 caliber XD pistol as well, so no one will question you why you have a 40 caliber mag when you ONLY have a 9mm Springfield XD pistol? I have seen 40 S&W XD pistols go at very good prices and they are very nice pistols. Or if you go this route for any pistol.
                            Last edited by shooterx10; 01-24-2007, 10:24 AM.
                            Psalm 144:1 - "Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle."

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                            • #15
                              maxicon
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 4661

                              This works on CZ75b as well. I have some .40 cal mags, and when shooting in Arizona at my dad's I was able to load 14 rounds in them.

                              While in California, I only load them to 10 rounds. They're Promags, but have been reliable this way.
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