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Last edited by BigBamBoo; 08-07-2011, 4:25 PM.Bring hay for my horse....wine for my men....and mud for my turtle!
What do you hear ???...... Nothing but the rain. Well grab your gun and bring in the cat.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
- Sigmund Freud
Originally posted by ar15barrelsIt makes it bigger and longer.
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I have used Buffalo Bore and Double Tap ammo. Great stuff!! Pretty hot ammo.
I use .357 Sig, 9mm, 40, 10mm and .45 ACP from them. Out of my guns, very accurate too. -
............Last edited by BigBamBoo; 08-07-2011, 4:25 PM.Bring hay for my horse....wine for my men....and mud for my turtle!
What do you hear ???...... Nothing but the rain. Well grab your gun and bring in the cat.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
- Sigmund Freud
Originally posted by ar15barrelsIt makes it bigger and longer.
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I've heard nothing but good things on both brands.I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!
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If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".Comment
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I carry Doubletap 125gr 357 full house daily (note: I now live in Tucson AZ). Stuff is VERY hot but controllable from my 40oz-or-so Ruger New Vaquero. I have not run it past a chrony but it should be doing over 1,600fps from my 4.68" Ruger barrel - note that Rugers tend to "shoot fast" for their length by a bit.
At a backyard range at a friend's place in Nevada, I hit a bowling ball dead center from 20 yards out, split it in half and sent a fist-sized piece of the concrete core back past my feet by at least five yards. Guy whose range this was said he'd never seen anything like that out of a handgun.
No signs of overpressure in my gun, either. Projectile is a Speer Gold Dot which is an excellent choice for ultra-fast use as they tend to hold together better than most designs when "overdriven". Buffalo Bore is also a big user of Gold Dot slugs.
Buffalo Bore is supposed to be even hotter
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NOTE: I've heard that Buffalo Bore's 357 uses the older max pressure standard of 42,000psi instead of the newer 35k standard. I'm not sure if that's the case. It's also possible Doubletap is doing the same. Regardless, these are HOT loads. If you shoot them in a weak or marginal gun, you're nuts. Shoot it in a Scandium ultralight, you're completely bugf%$k
. I would recommend at least a mid-size DA like the S&W L-frames or Ruger GP100...these are old-school, high performance monster loads for good guns.
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You must have been the one that left the review to that effect on Double Tap's site!I carry Doubletap 125gr 357 full house daily (note: I now live in Tucson AZ). Stuff is VERY hot but controllable from my 40oz-or-so Ruger New Vaquero. I have not run it past a chrony but it should be doing over 1,600fps from my 4.68" Ruger barrel - note that Rugers tend to "shoot fast" for their length by a bit.
At a backyard range at a friend's place in Nevada, I hit a bowling ball dead center from 20 yards out, split it in half and sent a fist-sized piece of the concrete core back past my feet by at least five yards. Guy whose range this was said he'd never seen anything like that out of a handgun.
No signs of overpressure in my gun, either. Projectile is a Speer Gold Dot which is an excellent choice for ultra-fast use as they tend to hold together better than most designs when "overdriven". Buffalo Bore is also a big user of Gold Dot slugs.
Buffalo Bore is supposed to be even hotter
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NOTE: I've heard that Buffalo Bore's 357 uses the older max pressure standard of 42,000psi instead of the newer 35k standard. I'm not sure if that's the case. It's also possible Doubletap is doing the same. Regardless, these are HOT loads. If you shoot them in a weak or marginal gun, you're nuts. Shoot it in a Scandium ultralight, you're completely bugf%$k
. I would recommend at least a mid-size DA like the S&W L-frames or Ruger GP100...these are old-school, high performance monster loads for good guns.
I shoot their 135gr 10mm loads, and what everyone has said so far is correct - HOT. I almost don't want to use it in my nightstand gun because it seems like it would blow my ears out. Very accurate, very reliable, VERY hot.sigpic
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Doubletap is known to wildly inflate their FPS and this has been my experience when testing their 10mm stuf. YMMVComment
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I've fired Buffalo Bore heavy (325 grain) Colt .45 rounds. They were very accurate out of my Bowen Ruger BH.
I prefer to roll my own though.
If you got them for a good (non-Opanic) price, good for you.The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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Check my current auctions on Gunbroker - user name bigbasscat - see what left California before Roberti-RoosComment
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Yup. The stuff is hot. Will it always match their claimed FPS numbers on their site? Some say no. Dunno. But it IS hot, there are no reports of either it or Buffalo Bore blowing up guns, and Buffalo Bore is considered even hotter.You must have been the one that left the review to that effect on Double Tap's site!
There's a third small "near maniac" ammo house out there, Grizzly Ammo - but they're hardcast specialists, no jacketed stuff. Other than that, good rep.
Oh, and there's Garrett, the acknowledged energy leader in the few calibers he loads, mostly 44Mag and 45-70. He's kind of the go-to guy for bear defense loads
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Many of what I have shot from BB have been hard lead products "45-70" be careful if your shooter says no, to the lead product. As my DE mentions, similar to the Glock in barrel type.
I am not sure what you are going to be buying, I'd be careful with over buy right now, pretty pricy stuff.
Regards114
Semper Fi
"Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't
be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our
women and breed a hardier race!"
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...........Last edited by BigBamBoo; 08-07-2011, 4:25 PM.Bring hay for my horse....wine for my men....and mud for my turtle!
What do you hear ???...... Nothing but the rain. Well grab your gun and bring in the cat.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
- Sigmund Freud
Originally posted by ar15barrelsIt makes it bigger and longer.
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I use DoubleTap almost exclusively in my G29. They really hiked up their prices in the last year though. It's a lot of fun shooting this stuff at the range because people wonder how the hell a little Glock can make so much damn noise and recoil lol. I always let them shoot it and it never fails to put a smile on their faces
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No experience with Double Tap, but Buffalo Bore is good stuff. Very, very warm though. I've shot their heavyweight .357 loads in my Marlin with good results, but I won't let them near any of my K frame S&W's .
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Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.
Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James MadisonComment
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DT is good stuff. Not the stuff I use for home defense per se, I use whatever I get from local retail stores for HD, but DT is fun to shoot.
Their flat point load is rumored to be a great wilderness load for folks with semi pistols.Originally posted by cvigueThis is not rocket surgery.Comment
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DT is notorious for inflating their velocity, especially in 10mm. Looking on the forums as of late their QC has gone down the tubes. Lots of FTF, messed up primers, and erratic velocity including velocity 250fps slower than advertised.
Even with blended powders, there is no way to safely load a 200gr 10mm to 1275fps in a 4.6 inch barrel and stay within the 37,500psi SAAMI MAP. I buy from the same lab that DT gets their powder.
Buffalo Bore on the other hand is right on the money. Obscenely expensive, but the velocity is spot on.
Cor-Bon and Buffalo Bore were first on the scene with standard velocity 10mm, Mike copied it, did it cheaper, and marketed the heck out of it.Last edited by freakshow10mm; 10-11-2009, 7:51 AM.Comment
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