Approved List?

[SC-Texas]

I'm looking in from TExas and I was wondering what the aproved list for handguns is and why is it good to buy a istol or revolver that is on it?

What does a manufacturer have to do to get their handgun on the approved list?

[blkA4alb]

The safe handgun list is the list that a handgun must be on if it is to be DROSed by an FFL to a person. If the handgun is not on the list it cannot be DROSed by an FFL and can only be transfered by a person to person transfer (PPT.)

A manufacturer must submit the handgun for testing and pay a fee to keep the handgun on the list.

[wilit]

To expand on blkA4alb's post, basically, California in its infinite wisdom has determined that handguns need to pass a drop test. If it doesn't fire when dropped, it's safe and goes on the list. If it does fire, it's not safe and doesn't go on the list.

[scorpucla]

Requirement not nice to have

I'm looking in from TExas and I was wondering what the aproved list for handguns is and why is it good to buy a istol or revolver that is on it?

To further expand, it's not 'good' to buy a pistol on the list, it's pretty much required, with a couple of minor exceptions.

If you're planning on moving, buy what you want before you come.

[mike452]

Here's the list:

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

I think if manufacturers want to add something new to the list, the gun needs to have magazine disconnect and loaded chamber indicator.

[moredes]

I think if manufacturers want to add something new to the list, the gun needs to have magazine disconnect and loaded chamber indicator.

I've read this, but only as an internet forum post. Is it true? Does anyone have a link they can refer?

Does this mean that when the currently approved guns (that don't have disconnects and indicators), will no longer qualify, or are these "approvals" renewable?

Thank you.

[Librarian]

I've read this, but only as an internet forum post. Is it true? Does anyone have a link they can refer?

Does this mean that when the currently approved guns (that don't have disconnects and indicators), will no longer qualify, or are these "approvals" renewable?

Thank you.

Yes it's true. Unsafe handguns -

12126. As used in this chapter, "unsafe handgun" means any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 12001, for which any of the following is true:
a) For a revolver:
(1) It does not have a safety device that, either automatically in the case of a double-action firing mechanism, or by manual operation in the case of a single-action firing mechanism, causes the hammer to retract to a point where the firing pin does not rest upon the primer of the cartridge.
(2) It does not meet the firing requirement for handguns pursuant to Section 12127.
(3) It does not meet the drop safety requirement for handguns pursuant to Section 12128.

(b) For a pistol:
(1) It does not have a positive manually operated safety device, as determined by standards relating to imported guns promulgated by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
(2) It does not meet the firing requirement for handguns pursuant to Section 12127.
(3) It does not meet the drop safety requirement for handguns pursuant to Section 12128.
(4) Commencing January 1, 2006, for a center-fire semiautomatic pistol that is not already listed on the roster pursuant to Section 12131, it does not have either a chamber load indicator, or a magazine disconnect mechanism.
(5) Commencing January 1, 2007, for all center-fire semiautomatic pistols that are not already listed on the roster pursuant to Section 12131, it does not have both a chamber load indicator and if it has a detachable magazine, a magazine disconnect mechanism.

[bwiese]

Here's the list:

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

I think if manufacturers want to add something new to the list, the gun needs to have magazine disconnect and loaded chamber indicator.

Yep. Guns approved & already on the 'safe gun' list, and which are maintained on the safe gun list by having their fees paid to state at appropriate times, are able to stay on the list without having mag disco & LCI.

Any NEW pistol - or a pistol that has fallen off the list and which requires full reapplication - will require mag disco & LCI to be present.