Springfield-Armory Lightweight Operator VS. Kimber TLE/RLII [PICS!]

[Rugerman]

ok ive narrowed my HD guns down to these two. after seeing all those 1911's in that 1911 porn thread i cant get my mind off of them. so if you have anyone of them please tell me the pros and cons of yours in detail please. Ok, sice SA and Kimber are both exceptional firearms manufactures im stuck. I like the looks of the uber sexy SA Operator and the TLE/RLII. However, i looked over the DOJ handguns list for the Operator and it wasn't there?!?! Can anyone confirm this? Thanks in advance, and heres the pics

[scorpucla]

New Operator

Rugerman, the new operator does look nice! Unfortunately, I'm not convinced that most Californians would be able to purchase it, as it's not on the approved list, and I don't think SA would put a magazine disconnect in it...at least not this year.

[Rugerman]

DARN! man so much for me saving up for that Operator. Man I gotta move out of PRK That Operator such a nice pistol! I guess i can look at the Loaded models

[DRM6000]

what about a s&w 1911pd/rail?

[donger]

Nope, not on the list.

I think you're overlooking some other 1911's at that price-point. You should consider the Les Baer Thunder Ranch which is basically a hand fitted pistol in the same price range.

Oh, it's also Cali approved.

You could also consider the SA TRP which is also in the same neighborhood price-wise.

[Rugerman]

what about a s&w 1911pd/rail?

Does this model have a picatinny? the only SW1911 i know of with a rail is the PD Tactical Rail Series, or is that the one you're talking about?

[DRM6000]

Does this model have a picatinny? the only SW1911 i know of with a rail is the PD Tactical Rail Series, or is that the one you're talking about?

yes, if you are looking for rails and a black finish.

i have this s&w:

[Kruzr]

You should consider the Les Baer Thunder Ranch which is basically a hand fitted pistol in the same price range.

Not quite in the same price range.
A new TRS goes for $1685 list. The Kimber TLE/RL II has a MSRP of about $1100. The loaded Operator has a list of about $1330.

[scorpucla]

Reqt's?

Does this model have a picatinny? the only SW1911 i know of with a rail is the PD Tactical Rail Series, or is that the one you're talking about?

Ruger,

I guess the question is what are your requirements? Is this going to be for carry, or strictly home defense? I think you had mentioned HD in your original post. The Kimber and Springer you're looking at our nice because they're lighter that a standard 1911, and they have rails, however, if you're not going to carry, I'm not convinced the weight savings is worth it.

Is a rail a requirement? If not, you'll open yourself up to a lot of other 1911 models.

[PLINK]

I like Springers a lot but the Kimber TLE has some nice features for the money. I hope to get one with out the rail though.

[NextTimeAround]

I love my TLE/RL II, haven't shot an Operator, but they feel nice.

[Aluisious]

I have the TLE sans rail. It's great, I wouldn't trade it. I hope to shoot it till it turns to dust.

[cho034442]

My TLE II (no rail, internal extractor) is very accurate and have been working fine at 500-round count. But, the trigger has a little creep and Alan Tanaka in Gardena is working on it (he is also going to bring the trigger pull from 5 lb. to 4 lb.).

[Aluisious]

My TLE II (no rail, internal extractor) is very accurate and have been working fine at 500-round count. But, the trigger has a little creep and Alan Tanaka in Gardena is working on it (he is also going to bring the trigger pull from 5 lb. to 4 lb.).

My TLE had a wee bit of creep, but firing more rounds smoothed it out. It was quite crisp in less than one thousand.

[CWM4A1]

Light weight operator is not on the list (PX9116L), but their full size MC operator is on the list (PX9105ML). Come with OD green frame and Pachmyer grip. I do have Kimber Gold Combat, sweet gun....