New to CA...checking legality

[T.C.]

I'm looking at picking up an M&P next month, and I'm considering sending to the guys below for a trigger job. They claim they can bring the trigger pull down as low as 3.5. I'm curious as to how light of a trigger pull I can have in this state, and stay within the bounds of the law

http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/Services.htm

[cineski]

I don't believe there's any law for how light a trigger can be. However, depending on what the gun will be used for plus common sense will be a higher level of pull for deciding which trigger pull to get. What's the gun going to be used for?

[B Strong]

I'm looking at picking up an M&P next month, and I'm considering sending to the guys below for a trigger job. They claim they can bring the trigger pull down as low as 3.5. I'm curious as to how light of a trigger pull I can have in this state, and stay within the bounds of the law

http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/Services.htm

I'm unaware of any law that specifies the minimum legal trigger pull.

If you're talking about a possible liability in a civil action, anything you do or don't do is fair game.

[T.C.]

I don't believe there's any law for how light a trigger can be. However, depending on what the gun will be used for plus common sense will be a higher level of pull for deciding which trigger pull to get. What's the gun going to be used for?

Basically for home defense and the range

[Vin496]

Basically for home defense and the range

As other have stated, there isn't any law on how light a trigger you can have, but if you are using the gun for HD, you probably don't want a super light trigger. Just for safety issues

Is it possible that if you use a gun that has been modified to shoot easier in an HD scenario, that it could cause problems for you if there is some sort of lawsuit.

Possibly, but that wouldn't be my main concern for having a super light target trigger on an HD gun. It would definitely be more of a safety issue.

[T.C.]

What would you all call a minimum weight for a safe trigger pull?

[cineski]

For a striker fired pistol with no external safety, just keep it stock. If you must do a trigger job, I would not drop below a 4.5-5 lb pull at all. In many instances, stressful situations can make motor skills jerky and a hair trigger is not what you want in these situations.

[Black Majik]

Dan Burwell does an amazing trigger job for M&Ps. 3.5# isn't terribly light, with proper gun handling it'll be no problem.

I vote to go for it, there are no legality issues over a 3.5# trigger.

[sholling]

Welcome to the Peoples' Republic. Burwell did two of my M&Ps and I had him disable the mag disconnect. I just would not take them below 4.5lbs. That's my bottom line for any self defense pistol.

You'll find that the stock trigger smooths way out after 200-300 trigger pulls. Just be sure to use fresh snap caps when dry firing an M&P. Their firing pins don't take too kindly to forgetting to use snap caps.

[bwiese]

I'm looking at picking up an M&P next month, and I'm considering sending to the guys below for a trigger job. They claim they can bring the trigger pull down as low as 3.5. I'm curious as to how light of a trigger pull I can have in this state, and stay within the bounds of the law

http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/Services.htm

I will be having this done (approximately) to my M&P to clean up the trigger, as well as remove the mag disco.

Dan Burwell has an excellent reputation. He will not make your gun 'unsafe' and if anything were to happen (i.e,, legit shoot of a perp) I doubt it would be noticed, let alone relevant - unless you were stupid and said "I didn't mean to shoot him, it was an accident" (==> go directly to jail).

People convert their Glocks w/ 3.5lb discos all the time, though 3.5 lbs is light for a carry gun.

Note that once such mods are done, your gun really is no longer considered Rostered and thus can only be PPT'd/consigned to another Californian, or sold outside CA (i.e., a CA FFL can't buy it from you for inventory and subsequent resale to nonexempt parties California)

Their firing pins don't take too kindly to forgetting to use snap caps.

I believe later M&Ps have a new firing pin design that alleviates this worry.

[T.C.]

I will be having this done (approximately) to my M&P to clean up the trigger, as well as remove the mag disco.

Dan Burwell has an excellent reputation. He will not make your gun 'unsafe' and if anything were to happen (i.e,, legit shoot of a perp) I doubt it would be noticed, let alone relevant - unless you were stupid and said "I didn't mean to shoot him, it was an accident" (==> go directly to jail).

People convert their Glocks w/ 3.5lb discos all the time, though 3.5 lbs is light for a carry gun.

Note that once such mods are done, your gun really is no longer considered Rostered and thus can only be PPT'd/consigned to another Californian, or sold outside CA (i.e., a CA FFL can't buy it from you for inventory and subsequent resale to nonexempt parties California)



I believe later M&Ps have a new firing pin design that alleviates this worry.

Any issues with the warranty still being valid after having that work done?

[T.C.]

For a striker fired pistol with no external safety, just keep it stock. If you must do a trigger job, I would not drop below a 4.5-5 lb pull at all. In many instances, stressful situations can make motor skills jerky and a hair trigger is not what you want in these situations.

4.5-5 is about what I was thinking anyway. I was also looking at takign up alot of the takeup and overtravel

[nn3453]

Note that once such mods are done, your gun really is no longer considered Rostered and thus can only be PPT'd/consigned to another Californian, or sold outside CA (i.e., a CA FFL can't buy it from you for inventory and subsequent resale to nonexempt parties California)

You answered my question before I could ask it.

(Sorry OP for hijacking your thread).

Could you elaborate on how an ordinary citizen can determine whether a gun has been modified to the point where it is no longer considered to be rostered? Sear/trigger pull mods? New guide rod? New safety? New grips?

thank you.