Cant shoot my Glock

[WhiteHot]

Just got back from the range and I am so frustrated. I cant shoot my damn Glock 22 RTF consistently. Sometimes I am right on but most of the time I am low and to the left. I have put around 500 rounds through it and just cant get the thing. I had my Buckmark with me and I was dead on with that thing. Someone loaned me his Steyr M40 and the 20 rounds I shot through it were more consistent than with my gun. Last trip to the range, I borrowed my friends XD40 and I was better with it, too. I think I have a problem with the trigger. I have done the 25 cent trigger job and it is smoother but I think the long pull of the Glock trigger is getting me. That and it seems like the pull of the trigger varies a bit over the range of travel. Am I nuts? Any suggestions? Should I just dump it and go with something that is more compatible with my style? I like the cost, reliability, and the overall simpleness of the gun so I would like to keep it but I dont know if I should be fighting something that is never really going to work out.

[Millions-Knives]

Did anyone else try your gun? Maybe get an RO or someone to see how it's shooting. Then again there is that one circular target someone will point out in a second I'm sure.

I thought this was going to be a post due to the lack of ammo available.

[NotEnoughGuns]

I have the same exact problem with my glocks. low and left. It is the trigger pull for me. I bought a cheap laser to mount on the rail and do a lot of dry firing (with snap caps) while trying to keep the laser in one spot. It seems to be helping but its going to take some time to work it out. I too love the simplicity though, they are the easiest guns to clean I've come across.

[NotEnoughGuns]

Then again there is that one circular target someone will point out in a second I'm sure.

like this

[WhiteHot]

Yup, I have had a few people shoot it. The gun is fine. It is the combo of the gun and me that is the problem. I have seen the target you are talking about. It is just hard for me to accept that I have to change the way I shoot for this gun when I can shoot other guns relatively well.... by my standards at least. I have never shot one with the 3.5lb connector, would that help? I think I am looking for a lighter pull with a crisper break. A shorter pull would be really nice, too, but I dont think that is in the cards.

My issue is that in a self defense situation, I want something that shoots naturally for me and not something that I have to point and then think about how I am holding it before I pull the trigger.

[Black Majik]

Dryfire, dryfire, dryfire.

You're anticipating the recoil.

[HondaMasterTech]

You should get a laser and dry fire the gun a lot. Glocks are a near double action gun. They can take time to get used to.

[BamBam-31]

Sounds like a classic case of flinch-itis. .40 in a polymer gun will flip the most, thus causing flinch the most.

Dry firing the Glock and shooting your Buckmark more are the cure.

[Oldnoob]

Don't know if this help. I like my Glock very much and can group a quarter size hole in 25'. But I understand it's not for everyone.

[dot429]

I would never encourage people to stay away from Glocks. I think they are pound for pound the best defensive handguns on the market. With that stated, it may be that you are one of those that isn't meant for Glocks or vice-versa. I do, however, doubt that.

Given the amount of rounds you have fired, I think you need more trigger time. Dry firing (w/snap caps and SAFELY) is a good thing, but dry firing Glocks is a pain, because you have to partially rack the slide each time. One thing about consistent groups is consistent grip placement. If you change your grip placement from shot to shot, your groups are going to spread, that is unless you are Superman.

To be serious, just remember that all you have to do is focus on the front sight and press the trigger. Develop a rhythm of breathing and pressing. I try to be pressing the trigger as I'm exhaling and am at my best when I consistently break the shot with my lungs about half emptied -in other words, my chest not is puffed up nor is it completely deflated. Don't hold your breath, that'll have you shaking rather quickly; if I catch myself doing that, I lower the gun and try to regain my rhythm before I start again. Also, don't be afraid to lower the gun between shots, just avoid moving your grip. Slow down, breathe, focus, and break the shot. One other thing that has helped me over the years is to NOT look at where my last shot landed. The shoot-n-see targets are great and all, but the instant gratification they provide can mess with your mind. Fight that urge to see where the last shot landed, because getting upset about your last shot will likely spoil your next. Shoot in three shot strings, then work your way up to five, and beyond. Do the same thing all three/five/etc. times: breathe, focus, press, break the shot. Look at your results after the group has been fired. I believe very strongly that if you practice that method, you'll be very happy with your results.

I really like that chart the other member put up. It's very good information. I was taught from a young age about the 6:30 to 7:00 o'clock flinch, it's very easy to do. Flinches are hard to break. I didn't shoot for several years due to some surgeries and when I got back into shooting, I was a flinch-o-matic, mostly from lack of practice and partially because of the pain in my arms and wrists. It took some time and a lot of mental energy, but I'm almost back to where I was when I shoot regularly.

If you've got a flinch going on, have a buddy load your magazines for you with a few snap caps or training dummies randomly placed in the mag. You'll see if you're flinching really quickly and once you are aware of it, you can start to break yourself of the habit.

Sorry for the ramble, hope I helped.

Keep shooting that Glock. Good luck!

Best,

Michael

[WhiteHot]

You guys are probably right about anticipating recoil and flinching. This gun really does seem to pop up quite a bit, especially with 165gr factory ammo. I would like to blame it on the trigger though When I dry fire, I am pretty sure I am doing really well since I am not anticipating the recoil. Guess I should get some firecrackers and have someone throw them at me when I am shooting.

In all honesty, I dont think the trigger is helping though. Should I give the 3.5lb connector a shot?

[Black Majik]

The 3.5# connector will help, but it wont fix the low-left.

Dryfiring is a good practice, however when you're at the range, the difference is tricking your mind. You KNOW the gun is empty when you dryfire, you know the round is chambered when you're at the range.

The fix? Dryfire at the range prior to shooting your group. It helps trick your mind that the next magazine is empty as well. Dryfire between groups at the range, you may notice some improvement.

Good luck.

[CSACANNONEER]

I can't shoot a Glock worth crap either! Then again, I haven't tried too hard since I prefer the feel of a 1911. The ONLY reason I own a Glock is to let new shooters compare it to other guns so that they won't make a mistake and buy one if it doesn't fit them right.

[rambo]

When i first started with my glocks I had the problem of large groups.... i took a hand gun course that helped me be more consistent but some advice from a glock guy about trigger pull helped by far the most and what he told me was about the pull you know how there is that little bit of "slop" before the trigger pull i use the pad of my finger to keep presure on that before firing and getting use to bouncing back into that position will keep you on tight groups and quick double taps. my two cents

[trickyvic]

You could also try mixing in a snap cap when at the range.