HK USP .45 vs. HK45...Please Help!!!

[ajl2121]

Hello everyone...I was referred to this forum by a fellow member while I was at the high road...I suppose my question will be better answered by fellow Californians....
Recently, I was 100% certain that I was going to purchase the HK .45 USP in full size when a fellow member informed me that I might want to consider waiting for the HK45...He posted pictures of the pistol and it looks really nice. I read some articles on the new HK45, and it seems that it should be out within the next few months (although the expected high demand may prolong the ownership of one). Anyhow, this is the limited amount of information that I know so far...If anyone knows more about the HK45, please feel free to contribute to this list...
1. HK45 holds 10 rounds/ USP .45 (full size) holds 12. (I'm in CA, so doesn't matter so long as I reside here).
2. Articles say that they made the HK45 more ergonomic for shooters with varied hand sizes, and comes with 2 different grips.
3. Has a threaded barrel for silencer...Does that mean that the HK45 will not be available in CA????
4. Also, since it is a new production pistol, does that mean that a chambered round cannot be fired with the magazine released????

[avidone]

Hi,
see: http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.ph...highlight=hk45

[rorschach]

Good to know they submitted it before the end of the year.

[avidone]

Good to know they submitted it before the end of the year.

I hope that pans out,........big time!

[mike100]

wow..if they did get it submitted in the 11th hour before 2007, then I'm gonna have to consider selling my elite or something... A slim natural ambidextrous 10 round 45 is really the natural progression from 1911's.

[kantstudien]

Who said they submitted it already?

[avidone]

Who said they submitted it already?

http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52135&highlight=hk45

If you follow the link above and read post 10, you will see what we are referring to.

[mike100]

Inside word was that hk was in a rush to get the models to CA by December. this is the first word I heard that they might have actually done it.

[Greg-Dawg]

If the HK45 has a threaded barrel, then most likely it will not be legal here. The HK USP Tactical, which also has a threaded barrel, is illegal here.

Check this out: CA legal hand gun purchases.

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

[ajl2121]

Thanks for the info guys...Lots of good stuff in that link above...I suppose the magazine disconnect (hopefully) will not be an issue with the new HK45 if that's correct. I really like the Hk USP fullsize...Shot the glock, XD, kimber, Sig...I have smaller hands (can only palm a full size basketball when the ball is brand new and the grip is sticky), but the HK full size fired very nicely...especially when in single action due the the shorter trigger pull. Can anyone answer me this...The grouping of the bullets of the HK USP .45 F were consistant; however, all my shots were a bit lower and to the right??? Am I just a newbie and not a good shooter? I'm right handed and used a rental gun at local range...

Will the HK45 eventually replace the USP .45, or make the USP seem dated?

[mike100]

The hk45 will NOT have a mag disconnect. the idea was that they got one submitted before 2007 with only the loaded chamber indicator... that one alone is kind of iffy since the text warning has to be kind of large, but anyhow...

if they were talking about submitting for this state, my guess is that it would be a compliant version with a regular bbl. I'm still skeptical since the ATF delayed the importation as long as it did.

[jif]

I hope the compact made it in, and that it has the P2000-style grip as shown. If so, I'll definately be getting one of those!

[ajl2121]

A member on the high road said that due to the threaded barrel, the HK45 will not be allowed into CA...That makes sense since the HK USP tactical cannot be sold here, due to the threaded barrel...HOWEVER, wouldn't HK be "smart" enough to produce the HK45 w/o a threaded barrel for places like CA???

[NextTimeAround]

I've heard that they'll be making a version without the threaded barrel. Can't remember where I saw it.

[Jon]

Until I hear/see an official announcement from HK, I'll keep my expectations in check. Having said that, I'll reiterate what I've said before: If they're available in CA, I will buy it.