Glock questions.

[himurax13]

I purchased a Glock 19 and a Glock 22 over 13 years ago. I have not had a chance to do research on the current models. I was interested in getting a Glock 21 but I heard something about a SF and a RTF. Do these new versions come with a compensator option? I believe I would like a Glock 21 SF with a rough texture and compensator ports. Does this sort of thing exist and if not, will they be coming out with it soon?

[Greg-Dawg]

No C models on the SF, nor RTF as of now.

[Hozr]

Could you not just swap a completed slide/barrel from a C model to a RTF/SF frame to achieve the same? I know people switch the barrel in C models to make them standard.

Not sure f the SF comes RTF either, haven't seen one.

[Cardinal Sin]

You need to sell me the 19 or both of us get a 21.

[cmonk518]

Do you plan on shooting competition with your Glock??

A compensated Glock is worthless in the eyes of many shooters, LE, and tactical instructors. The difference is hardly noticeable if you ever do a comparison.

Almost EVERYBODY who's ever owned or shot a compensated pistol or revolver will tell you all it does is spray a gang of lead and gas into your face (that really hurts!!!) and esp. at nighttime, the backblast will ruin any sight picture you might need to acquire multiple shots or tracking a moving target.

A compensator may look very cool, but not very tactical at all. If you plan on taking any tactical handgun classes, do alot of holster work, weapons retention tactics, and speed rocks, the compensator will blow the biggest hole in all your shirts and send gas and lead directly up into your face. Try that with a .45 and its the MOST PAINFUL experience ever!! =) You'll never forget it.

Trust me, go with a Glock 21SF. With enough practice, proper stance, and trigger pull, a .45acp controlled pair is no harder to shoot than a 9mm.

[SJgunguy24]

Do you plan on shooting competition with your Glock??

A compensated Glock is worthless in the eyes of many shooters, LE, and tactical instructors. The difference is hardly noticeable if you ever do a comparison.

Almost EVERYBODY who's ever owned or shot a compensated pistol or revolver will tell you all it does is spray a gang of lead and gas into your face (that really hurts!!!) and esp. at nighttime, the backblast will ruin any sight picture you might need to acquire multiple shots or tracking a moving target.

A compensator may look very cool, but not very tactical at all. If you plan on taking any tactical handgun classes, do alot of holster work, weapons retention tactics, and speed rocks, the compensator will blow the biggest hole in all your shirts and send gas and lead directly up into your face. Try that with a .45 and its the MOST PAINFUL experience ever!! =) You'll never forget it.

Trust me, go with a Glock 21SF. With enough practice, proper stance, and trigger pull, a .45acp controlled pair is no harder to shoot than a 9mm.

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In a situation where you may have to defend yourself with that gun. A big fireball isn't going to help you. It will ruin your night vision though.

[himurax13]

Hmm, well I used to own an 8 round Taurus 357 magnum that was compensated and it was like shooting a 22 LR. None of the blast ended up anywhere near my face.

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

Hmm, well I used to own an 8 round Taurus 357 magnum that was compensated and it was like shooting a 22 LR. None of the blast ended up anywhere near my face.

That has a great deal to do with the configuration of the vents and expansion chamber, if any. I've fired C model Glocks - the only difference I observed was the increased perception of muzzle blast and a vertical component of muzzle flare in low light conditions. I didn't think that very minor reduction of muzzle lift was worth it.

[dchang0]

The difference is hardly noticeable if you ever do a comparison.

Almost EVERYBODY who's ever owned or shot a compensated pistol or revolver will tell you all it does is spray a gang of lead and gas into your face (that really hurts!!!) and esp. at nighttime, the backblast will ruin any sight picture you might need to acquire multiple shots or tracking a moving target.

Not so... I was pleasantly surprised by how much recoil reduction my 19C has. I figured, hey, 9mm doesn't need a compensator, but I might as well buy one since the price difference isn't much, and I can always throw a standard 19 barrel in there if I change my mind.

But it's been tons of fun to shoot. The recoil reduction even with the wimpy 9mm is very noticeable. A friend who owns a 17 and 19 tried it and agrees.

And no, it doesn't throw lead and gas in my face, nor is the flash a problem (depends on ammo--some people report large fireballs with certain brands).

I'll be competing with the 19C at a couple of upcoming night matches too.

I do agree with you on close-to-the-body firing--that could suck. I've felt the gas vent into my torso. The solution is to turn the gun sideways so that the vents point away from your body. It's a modification of a technique that Suarez Int'l taught me to ensure that the slide doesn't strike one's body--I just turn it further than they recommended.

I have shot friends' compensated revolvers and semi-autos and it has so far always made a noticeable difference. The guys running space guns (comps and red-dots) always kick ***, too, so it's great for competition. There's this one kid that was at the last steel match that cleared each stage (approx 22 targets each) in 15 seconds. Yes, 15 seconds! He was of course running a compensator.

[cmonk518]

Hmm, well I used to own an 8 round Taurus 357 magnum that was compensated and it was like shooting a 22 LR. None of the blast ended up anywhere near my face.

In a .357 Magnum, there's alot less backblast only because there are so many open chambers other than the barrel and compensator for gas and lead to come out from. You have the chamber itself, the tiny gap between cylinder and frame, and more than usual, a .357 magnum will have a longer barrel than your standard 3.5" to 5" Glock barrel, which helps alot directing it out the barrel instead. With an automatic, ur only opening before the shell is ejected is all within the barrel.

If you do any instinctive point shooting or any weapons retention techniques, guaranteed you'll get lead and hot gas in your face. Not talking about the standard isosceles and/or weaver stance with both arms pressed out. That for sure won't get anything in your face.

[cmonk518]

Not so... I was pleasantly surprised by how much recoil reduction my 19C has. I figured, hey, 9mm doesn't need a compensator, but I might as well buy one since the price difference isn't much, and I can always throw a standard 19 barrel in there if I change my mind.

But it's been tons of fun to shoot. The recoil reduction even with the wimpy 9mm is very noticeable. A friend who owns a 17 and 19 tried it and agrees.

And no, it doesn't throw lead and gas in my face, nor is the flash a problem (depends on ammo--some people report large fireballs with certain brands).

I'll be competing with the 19C at a couple of upcoming night matches too.

I do agree with you on close-to-the-body firing--that could suck. I've felt the gas vent into my torso. The solution is to turn the gun sideways so that the vents point away from your body. It's a modification of a technique that Suarez Int'l taught me to ensure that the slide doesn't strike one's body--I just turn it further than they recommended.

I have shot friends' compensated revolvers and semi-autos and it has so far always made a noticeable difference. The guys running space guns (comps and red-dots) always kick ***, too, so it's great for competition. There's this one kid that was at the last steel match that cleared each stage (approx 22 targets each) in 15 seconds. Yes, 15 seconds! He was of course running a compensator.

Yeah, totally agree with a 9mm...ALOT less backblast and lead compared to the .45 round. I've shot one that an instructor had, a Glock 19C. I was actually talking about Glock .45's that the OP was asking about. For sure, there's lots more gas and lead coming out of a .45 compared to a 9mm round.

Yeah and totally familiar with the Suarez tilt speed rock! Sucks one time I was in class with a friend's Para 3in 1911 in .45 and totally out of habit, forgot to tilt the sucker and jeezus christ, so much lead come out and hit me all over the face. Sh*t hurt BIG TIME!!