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  • Jason_R
    Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 379

    Most likely moving back to Cali...

    I live in Utah right now...and I am most likely moving back to California to finish school...

    Is there anything I should be buying here that I won't be able to buy in Cali? I was going to buy an AR15, but now that I'm moving back I thought that may not be the best idea.....

    How I hate Cali's laws...
  • #2
    avidone
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 946

    I believe that any pistols that are not on the CA roster of approved firearms and are also not considered assault weapons would be great to bring with you. I am pretty sure as long as it's not an AW, you just fill out some kind of DOJ declaration form and possibly pay a minor fee. The only way to get these once you are here is through a Private Party Transfer so pick wisely and stock up! I'm sure some other Calgunners can come up with some great suggestions and details of the proper procedure. I always wanted a Para Ordnance P-13 45 Limited but I could only get the regular P-13 because the limited was not listed, even though they are almost identical funtionally.
    Originally posted by ViPER395
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    • #3
      dfletcher
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2006
      • 14787

      If you happened to like older S & Ws I'd say buy away before you get here. If you find you have too many (not possible I think) you can always sell them for more than you paid.
      GOA Member & SAF Life Member

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      • #4
        Wulf
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 1311

        When you move into the state you can bring with you guns you own that are not on the safe gun list. Since there are certian models that cannont (dont have the necessary features) or will not ever be on the safe gun (no longer manufactured, not manufactured in enough quantity to be worth listing) list, persons like you, moving into the state, represent the only method whereby these models can enter the state. Certian wide body poly framed 1911 types that are frequently used in USPSA/IPSC competetion are worth significantly more in the state than they cost outside of the state. Same for certian small carry guns, and some exotics like HK Squeeze cockers. So you should definately look carefully at the list and make sure you own what you want that is not on it. You might also do any shooting buddys you have in the state a favor and see if there's any way you could help them out or maybe make a buck two for for yourself.

        Since you say you're moving "back", you may also bring with you any high caps that you "previously possessed" in the state. There's no requirement in the law that you be able to document this prior possession. Let your conscious, and the reality that you couldent have previously possessed a TYPE of mag that didnt exist prior to 2000, be your guide. You should also note that mag PARTS that post date 2000 are acceptible as REPACEMENT parts to mags that you previously possessed in the state.

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        • #5
          Jason_R
          Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 379

          I didn't think about an STI...I may have to keep my eye out for one. I have a HK P7 PSP, but that's in state already (my dad's gun).

          What about ARs?

          Is the HK45 going to have to guy a mag disconnect to be legal in state? If so, I may just buy one out here.
          Last edited by Jason_R; 01-11-2007, 8:46 AM.

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          • #6
            bwiese
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Oct 2005
            • 27621

            Bring back a bunch of classic, prime-shape S&W revolvers.

            Bill Wiese
            San Jose, CA

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            • #7
              cho034442
              Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 210

              [QUOTE=
              What about ARs? QUOTE]

              Nope, unless it meets the "none-Assult Weapon" regulation.

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              • #8
                Miltiades
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 1148

                Also - pick your residence county wisely

                You didn't mention whether you have any latitude regarding the county of residence you select when you move back to California. But if you do, it would pay to do your research on the ease of obtaining a CA CCW permit, which varies widely by county. For example, you have no chance in Los Angeles County, but in Kern County you have a good chance.

                There is a good discussion of this subject on a website known as California CCW:

                California CCW.org

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                • #9
                  zefflyn
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 537

                  Originally posted by dfletcher
                  If you happened to like older S & Ws I'd say buy away before you get here. If you find you have too many (not possible I think) you can always donate them to calgunners less fortunate than yourself.

                  fixed.

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                  • #10
                    Jason_R
                    Member
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 379

                    So if I bought a few Mark 23s, what would I do with the threaded barrel? Would I give it to the seller?

                    Any idea if the OLL will have be considered Assault Weapons in the near to distant future?

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                    • #11
                      gose
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3953

                      Originally posted by Jason_R
                      So if I bought a few Mark 23s, what would I do with the threaded barrel? Would I give it to the seller?

                      Any idea if the OLL will have be considered Assault Weapons in the near to distant future?
                      Yes, the threaded barrel itself is very legal and there is no constructive possession. Do NOT have the firearm assembled with the threaded barrel EVER.

                      Near, no, distant, who knows? Always in motion the future is....
                      With Oden on our side.

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                      • #12
                        rocknut
                        Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 207

                        Originally posted by Jason_R
                        So if I bought a few Mark 23s, what would I do with the threaded barrel? Would I give it to the seller?

                        Any idea if the OLL will have be considered Assault Weapons in the near to distant future?
                        Oh Oh... I get dibs on that first MK23!!! No really, let me know if you do!

                        Not that you would intentionally bring unlisted handguns into the state with the intent of selling them. But if you move here and then decide that you need to sell a MK 23 to help with the moving costs, I've got your back...
                        Last edited by rocknut; 01-11-2007, 6:35 PM.

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                        • #13
                          dwtt
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 7470

                          Here's some suggestions: the new Taurus 1911, Dan Wesson Razorback in 10mm, any Kel-tec pistol, EAA Witness compact and full size, and STI frames for the competitor in all of us.

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                          • #14
                            slowjonn
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 965

                            I would like a pinned and recessed S&W model 19 with a 2 1/2 inch barrel . A couple of Ruger Vaquero's, one 5 1/2 and one 7 1/2 inch.

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                            • #15
                              chunger
                              Member
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 465

                              I think you should make sure you have enough hi quality bare 1911 frames to hold you over for the duration of the time you are a CAlifornia resident. There are lots of people in state who would like to have a custom handgun built, but cannot obtain a bare slide/frame to start the build. I remember another person who did not have a lot of funds obtained several bare Caspian frames prior to moving here, and was forced to sell some off to recoupe some of his moving expenses. It ended up being very helpful.

                              Also, if it is possible to obtain 2011 wide-body bare frames for your future competition needs, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have several.

                              If it's a matter of stocking up for your extended residency, only buying the piece that is restricted (bare frame) and in suitable quantity would give you the greatest cost advantage because you can build the guns as funds become available.
                              Last edited by chunger; 01-11-2007, 9:25 PM.

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