I want a striker fired 1911

[cineski]

I dare say it: I want a striker fired 1911 . I know all you 1911 fanatics just skipped a few heart beats and believe John Moses Browning just turned in his grave, but to me, this would be an awesome gun. Personally, I love 1911's. I just don't like the platform of 1911's with the external safety and SAO hair trigger. I don't want to like it. Yes, I could train and train and train but I don't want to fire every gun like a 1911, therefore I chose to not partake in the 1911 nectar. And yes there's the POV that the original was perfection and should never be changed, but if JMB were alive today, do you think he'd still be stuck on this design? He was an innovative mind, which in most examples I speculate means "not stuck in old ways." Para Ordnance has the LDA. But it's still hammer fired and I have no idea how much that platform caught on.

So is something like this possible? I know it would change the overall dimensions at the rear of the gun, but I wouldn't think it would be drastic. The slide would probably have to be a bit longer toward the rear to hold the striker fired innards with a redesigned beavertail or lack thereof. Just think: An all steel 1911 with a highly tuned XD trigger, or a tuned Glock trigger, or a Kahr trigger, whatever your poison. All similar in function and feel. It would open the doors to Hotel 1911 to many many people, though. I know this isn't something that will realistically happen, but as the old saying goes "things do happen." Who knows, maybe a few cad designs later and a few phone calls to a machinist and a prototype may just happen? Maybe

[JTROKS]

Better get the defibrillator!

[jdberger]

Here...try this...just as good...




...friggin apostate.....

[redcliff]

It sounds like you don't want a 1911; you want a GLock with a 1911 grip.

The quintessential feature of the 1911 is "cocked and locked" condition 1.

[Black Majik]

Any reason you're opposed to an exposed hammer? The LDA is probably your closest bet, a external hammer still provides second strike capability.

Or, you could always pin the grip safety and leave the manual safety on fire, though I don't recommend it, it'll have the short slack and reset like a Glock.

[Spdjunkie]

IMHO for a Striker w/ Safety:

Smith & Wesson M&P45 w/ Thumb Safety

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=53907&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=26807&isFirearm=Y

Springfield Armory XD .45ACP w/ Grip Safety

http://www.springfield-armory.com/xd.php?version=124

For plastic/polymer/stirker. I shoot Glocks, but "To each his own"

ALSO, IMHO: Nothing beats the neutral feel & shooting comfort of a Gov't/FS 1911. Many try to imitate/duplicate, but nothing comes close = .45ACP Perfection

[Beelzy]

Wait what is that noise??

Oh, its JMB kicking his casket!

[fourXfour]

I would definitely buy a
glock/kahr that takes 1911mags.

[M47_Dragon]

That kid on YouTube who builds paper guns might be able to make something like this.

[M. D. Van Norman]

A striker-fired 1911 wouldn’t be a 1911 (or even a Colt-Browning pistol).

If you were to use a safe-action system, you would lose the short trigger pull beloved on the 1911 series. If you still want a single-action trigger, you would also have to keep the manual safety. You would have to compromise somewhere.

There are already compromises available. The SIG-Sauer and Kahr systems are good examples.

The other route would be to compromise on the way you use a 1911-style pistol.

[cineski]

I don't think some of you really read what I wrote. I want a steel 1911 with a striker fired trigger. I don't want a Glock. Why? Because I hate Glocks. I've tried many times to like them, just can't. I love my XD's. It's sort of akin to a polymer 1911. However, it's still a polymer XD (or M&P or fill in the polymer blank) and not what I'm talking about:

An all steel striker fired 1911.

And to those that argue the quintessential feature of a 1911 is only in it's trigger, I disagree. 1911's just shoot amazing, point naturally, are just plane cool. They can shoot just as amazing with out the IMO crappy cocked and locked trigger system.

Oh, the LDA does seem okay and a step in the direction of what I'm talking about. I just think a striker fired trigger is better than this after personal experience with different platforms. Okay, to get more specific: Steel 1911, retain grip safety without locking the slide, tuned XD style trigger that's still short and crisp with a trigger safety. Okay, an all steel XD would do the trick, but it's still not avail and it's still not a 1911.

[cineski]

The XD is a SAO pistol with no thumb safety and it works great.

A striker-fired 1911 wouldn’t be a 1911 (or even a Colt-Browning pistol).

If you were to use a safe-action system, you would lose the short trigger pull beloved on the 1911 series. If you still want a single-action trigger, you would also have to keep the manual safety. You would have to compromise somewhere.

There are already compromises available. The SIG-Sauer and Kahr systems are good examples.

The other route would be to compromise on the way you use a 1911-style pistol.

[redcliff]

And to those that argue the quintessential feature of a 1911 is only in it's trigger, I disagree. 1911's just shoot amazing, point naturally, are just plane cool. They can shoot just as amazing with out the IMO crappy cocked and locked trigger system.

One of the reasons 1911's shoot amazing is because they're not "half cocked/striker fired". Theres nothing crappy about cocked and locked, it just takes more training to be proficient with it.

[cineski]

I am just as accurate with an XD as a 1911. Personally. There is much more to a 1911 than just the trigger......which I personally find crappy ;-) I don't like having a thumb safety with any firearm. Again, you shouldn't HAVE to train so much to use a 1911. Yes, with its current setup you do if you want to use it as a defensive handgun. But my argument is you shouldn't have to. Different platforms allow people to have choices and saying a 1911 is only this way or the highway is leaving a lot of people out of the 1911 game.

[M. D. Van Norman]

Is the XD a safe-action (partially cocked) or single-action (fully cocked) system? I thought it was the former, but I am not familiar with these pistols.

To my knowledge, there are no single-action semi-automatic pistols without manual safeties, or at least they are rare. Please educate me if this is incorrect.