AR pistol shouldering

[Rob Roy]

Is it possible to shoulder effectively AR pistol's buffer? What are your experiences?

[CSACANNONEER]

Yes it is.

[Josh3239]

I don't have a AR pistol yet, Spike's is sending it out soon but I did try removing the buttstock from my ARs (rifle tube and carbine tube) to see how shouldering it would feel like. It can be done but it really isn't comfortable, but that could be because I am a small person. It seems to me that just resting your cheek on the tube would be best way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL_mlvnw21g

[Fantasma]

I don't have a AR pistol yet, Spike's is sending it out soon but I did try removing the buttstock from my ARs (rifle tube and carbine tube) to see how shouldering it would feel like. It can be done but it really isn't comfortable, but that could be because I am a small person. It seems to me that just resting your cheek on the tube would be best way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL_mlvnw21g

That does look awesome...

[Josh3239]

The definition of Rifle is a shoulder fired weapon.

Source? If you are actually quoting something I am sure it says, "designed or intended to be fired from the shoulder".

That said, I can shoot my pistols however I like. If I wanted to I could shoot my Glock by holding the back of my pistol against my shoulder and firing it and that doesn't make it a rifle. If I added a stock, that would make it a short barreled rifle not because it is capable of being fired from the shoulder (like my Glock example) but rather because that stock is designed or intended to be used from the shoulder. Using an AR pistol buffer tube as a stock would be illegal if the bufer tube was designed or intended to be fired from the shoulder, the ATF has already made this issue very clear.

[Technical Ted]

Oops

[technique]

I use the ACE kit, I also took a thread protector cover for a buffertube (its a rubber thing they ship new buffer tubes with) and put it on the end of the tube....its better than bare metal when shouldering.

[Rob Roy]

Source? If you are actually quoting something I am sure it says, "designed or intended to be fired from the shoulder".

That said, I can shoot my pistols however I like. If I wanted to I could shoot my Glock by holding the back of my pistol against my shoulder and firing it and that doesn't make it a rifle. If I added a stock, that would make it a short barreled rifle not because it is capable of being fired from the shoulder (like my Glock example) but rather because that stock is designed or intended to be used from the shoulder. Using an AR pistol buffer tube as a stock would be illegal if the bufer tube was designed or intended to be fired from the shoulder, the ATF has already made this issue very clear.

What ATF made clear? The buffer is not intended to be used from the shoulder?

[B Strong]

This is one of the gray areas I've been worried about for awhile.

With AR pistol buffers I don't think it's a problem, but I could see how an enterprising LEO that observed an individual using a carbine buffer mounting the piece to the shoulder could make something out of it.

I'm unaware of any ATF notice regarding buffer tubes as stocks on AR pistol builds.

[HkUSP45]

RRA pistol buffer tube

[Josh3239]

What ATF made clear? The buffer is not intended to be used from the shoulder?

Whether the buffer tube is a stock or not and whether you can put your cheek on it. It of course isn't because they are after all allowed on AR pistols. You really cannot get rid of them as they are a necessary part for the operation of a AR type firearm. As far as cheek weld and shoulder goes, like I said I can put a glock in my shoulder and shoot it like that and it doesn't make it a rifle and I can put my cheek on the slide of my Glock and it still doesn't make it a rifle. It is the same thing with the AR pistol, shouldering or resting my cheek on a buffer tube hardly transforms it from a pistol to rifle. These aren't defined based on how someone could theoretically use it or not. I can shoot my handguns however I want.

[Josh3239]

With AR pistol buffers I don't think it's a problem, but I could see how an enterprising LEO that observed an individual using a carbine buffer mounting the piece to the shoulder could make something out of it.

For that particularly, I don't see how that could be a problem. A buffer tube is not a shoulder stock, nor is it designed to be a shoulder stock, and it is 100% necessary for the complete operation of the AR. Pistol buffer tubes are made solely for the purpose that stocks cannot fit on them. I could see a problem if said person had an AR pistol with a carbine buffer tube and a spare buttstock lying around, that to me sounds like constructive possession on an SBR.

[69Mach1]

Hope this helps.

http://www.jcweaponry.com/images/ar15/BB.JPG

[69Mach1]

"Cheeking it" is one of my preferred methods. The other is to just hold it out in front of me like any other pistol. It's very controllable

[Gio]

"Cheeking it" is one of my preferred methods. The other is to just hold it out in front of me like any other pistol. It's very controllable

That is the way I have shot a few of my friends so far. One of them had a C-More the others were Iron Sights, it is weird thinking when you fire a CAR it kicks a good bit, but holding a 7-10 inch barrelled AR Pistol it has little or no kick to them.

Nice vid btw

-Gio