Sigs with lights, P226Rs?

[blkA4alb]

I'm thinking about getting a light for my 226R but I really want to see some pictures with different lights mounted. Aesthetics are really important to me so it has to look good too!

Thanks in advance guys .

[FinweElensar]

Have you tried sigforum.com?

[Lambchop]

Ask and you shall recieve!

[maxicon]

How do you like that TLR-1?

[Lambchop]

The TLR-1 is awesome! I cant believe how bright it is, and with the sig all of the light controls are in the right spot.

[Sig226]

Here is my baby with her M3 on...






I LOVE that laser/light combo.

The one benifit I didn't expect from this purchase was the effective "training" I get from it. Since I shoot by my self, and am not really into the suburban "tactical" classes, I look to fix my shooting issues by my self.

The laser allows me to see when I push, pull, twitch, etc on my target. So if I anticipate the shot, I see a streak of red and I KNOW what I did wrong. FWIW...


Dave

[blkA4alb]

Thanks for the pictures guys, somehow I missed your responses. Any others out there?

[TannerBoyl]

Here is my P226R in .40S&W with my Streamlight M3.

[blkA4alb]

Thanks a lot Tanner, thats just what I'm looking for. How do you like it?

[TannerBoyl]

To be honest, I never really thought that I would like having a light mounted on my pistol. I like the way the rails look on my SIGs, but I never really had much use for them.

Then one day, my brother asked me if I wanted to buy his extra Streamlight M3. I figured that it was a shame to have a railed pistols, but no lights to show for them, so I bought it.

When I first put it on, it was a tight fit. This M3 had never been mounted, so it took a little muscle to get it on there. Once I put it on and took it off a few times, it was a breeze to get on and off. Because the M3 body is plastic, it didn't cause any visible wear on my SIG. It's also very light, to the point that it doesn't really change the feel of my P226R.

The controls feel pretty good. I can't really complain about them. They're pretty intuitive.

I decided to take it out to the range to see how it would be to shoot the pistol with the light on it. To be honest, it really didn't feel like it made much of a difference either way. I may have soaked up a little recoil, but it was pretty much the same as shooting it without it. I did like how much light it put out! Man, this little sucker can shine!

You can turn the bezel on the light to focus the beam. I got it to show a concentrated sphere of light in the middle. It was pretty close to where I aligned my sights. After a few more rounds, I found that I could successfully point-shoot where the concentrated beam was within (approx) 10 yards. I didn't really try it any further.

One thing that I was concerned with by having a weapon mounted light was that if I used that light as a primary source when things went bump in the night was that I would may point my loaded weapon at non-life threatening targets. I guess what I'm saying is that I didn't feel comfortable with running around the house with a loaded gun pointing it at everything I needed to see in the dark.

Needless to say, I have this pistol with M3 as my nightstand gun accompanied by my Surefire 6P. I figure that I could spot with the 6P and point-shoot with my P226R & M3 if it really came down to it.

I hope that gave you some insight. Anyway, good luck!

[Cpl_Peters]

here is mine P226R with Surefire X200B

[Omega13device]

One thing that I was concerned with by having a weapon mounted light was that if I used that light as a primary source when things went bump in the night was that I would may point my loaded weapon at non-life threatening targets. I guess what I'm saying is that I didn't feel comfortable with running around the house with a loaded gun pointing it at everything I needed to see in the dark.

There is a simple answer to this. If someone breaks into my house, I lock myself and my family in a room, call the cops, and use my gun defensively. Let the police deal with the intruder.

Two reasons. One is I don't want to accidentally shoot a family member. Maybe someone got up to get a late night snack, or one of the kids let a friend crash on the couch. No way I want to take a chance on hurting a friendly.

Second is in the dark there's a better chance the bad guy gets the advantage on me. Now that I am down, my family is unprotected. On the other hand, locked in a room with my shotgun pointed at the door (and only one way in) there's no way the bad guy beats me.

[Cpl_Peters]

There is a simple answer to this. If someone breaks into my house, I lock myself and my family in a room, call the cops, and use my gun defensively. Let the police deal with the intruder.

Two reasons. One is I don't want to accidentally shoot a family member. Maybe someone got up to get a late night snack, or one of the kids let a friend crash on the couch. No way I want to take a chance on hurting a friendly.

Second is in the dark there's a better chance the bad guy gets the advantage on me. Now that I am down, my family is unprotected. On the other hand, locked in a room with my shotgun pointed at the door (and only one way in) there's no way the bad guy beats me.

That works well if your concern is protecting your family, which if I had one I am sure it would be. But if you are interested in protecting your property then you have to leave the room. I have always been of the mind that if someone is in my home and they hear me charge my 870 or Sig they are going to drop most of everying thing and streak out the door before they get some interesting body piercings from some 12GA 000 or .40 JHP.

This plan also assumes you have the ability to get you entire family into one room quietly and effectively to mount a defense. Otherwise some creep could be walking around and going into your kids room. In that case I would rather take the risk (since i have the advantage of farmilar surroundings and weapons) to stop any further exploration of my residence by said bad guy.

I guess alot depends on how your home is set up and your life style at the time.

As for weapon lights being used as a flash light that is a situation that should be addressed. Both my Sig and 870 and surefire lights on them, but that doesnt mean they will be my primary source of illumination. I think the big misconception people have is that if someone has broken into their home, the power suddenly doesnt work anymore How about flipping on the lights and you have a much clearer sight picture (plus lights going on will usually scare someone away). Sure this may take away your surprise and ability to blind the person with your uber tacticool light but greatly increases your ability to identify friend from foe.

You flip on the light and you see some blankets on the couch and your kid's friend drinking milk out of the carton at the fridge (while rude, not a shootable offense...well maybe in Texas) you know you dont have to blast them. As opposed to the light comes on and some hobo looking man is holding your plasma TV....you know what to do.

[Omega13device]

That works well if your concern is protecting your family, which if I had one I am sure it would be. But if you are interested in protecting your property then you have to leave the room. I have always been of the mind that if someone is in my home and they hear me charge my 870 or Sig they are going to drop most of everying thing and streak out the door before they get some interesting body piercings from some 12GA 000 or .40 JHP.

The only problem with your theory is that in California you are not justifed in the use of deadly force to protect property.

This plan also assumes you have the ability to get you entire family into one room quietly and effectively to mount a defense. Otherwise some creep could be walking around and going into your kids room. In that case I would rather take the risk (since i have the advantage of farmilar surroundings and weapons) to stop any further exploration of my residence by said bad guy.

I guess alot depends on how your home is set up and your life style at the time.

As for weapon lights being used as a flash light that is a situation that should be addressed. Both my Sig and 870 and surefire lights on them, but that doesnt mean they will be my primary source of illumination. I think the big misconception people have is that if someone has broken into their home, the power suddenly doesnt work anymore How about flipping on the lights and you have a much clearer sight picture (plus lights going on will usually scare someone away). Sure this may take away your surprise and ability to blind the person with your uber tacticool light but greatly increases your ability to identify friend from foe.

You're right, you can turn on the light. So you turn on the light and there is the bad guy stealing your laptop. You've got your gun on him and you've got control of the situation...until his buddy comes from behind you and smashes you over the head with a bat. They finish taking your stuff and leave you for dead. Nice going.

As you can see the issue isn't whether the lights are on or off. It's that you have no idea what you're getting into and you could be walking into a situation where are seriously (perhaps fatally) outmanned and/or outgunned.

You flip on the light and you see some blankets on the couch and your kid's friend drinking milk out of the carton at the fridge (while rude, not a shootable offense...well maybe in Texas) you know you dont have to blast them. As opposed to the light comes on and some hobo looking man is holding your plasma TV....you know what to do.

Again, great plan if it works out that way. If it doesn't you are F'D, and you have no idea which way it will go until you turn on the lights. You're better off dropping your delusions of heroism and playing it safe. Having a gun doesn't make you invincible.

Apologies to the OP for the thread hijack.

[Cpl_Peters]

You're right, you can turn on the light. So you turn on the light and there is the bad guy stealing your laptop. You've got your gun on him and you've got control of the situation...until his buddy comes from behind you and smashes you over the head with a bat. They finish taking your stuff and leave you for dead. Nice going.

True, or it could happen to you as you stumble out of bed for a midnight snack or to go use the bathroom, or getting everyone into one room for a defense. Whats your point? This could happen to you even if you dont know anybody is in the house. Does this mean you are afraid to leave your bedroom until morning?

The only problem with your theory is that in California you are not justifed in the use of deadly force to protect property.

If someone is in your home unlawfully you are given benefit of the doubt that they are there to cause violence upon you or your family. You are given that from the get go. Unless they find him bound and gagged then shot execution or style or shot in the back you are fine. So if I see some one is in my home, that I know for a fact isnt supposed to be there and they dont start running with a fear for their life towards the door....they are going to get shot.

You're better off dropping your delusions of heroism and playing it safe.

In my book playing it safe does not equal letting someone roam around and do whatever in my home. If I hear something go bump in the night I am going to find out what it was. I am not going to wedge myself in the corner of a room and call the police for what could be nothing. Thats just me though.

Even an unarmed person will investigate strange noises in the night. Its human nature. Its man nature to take a gun with you when you do it. I would feel pretty embarrassed if I had called the cops for a malfunctioning refridgerator or a busted washing machine. My point is that I am the type a person that will investigate what goes bump in the night, with or without a gun.

Don't get me wrong though, your plan makes a lot of sense if you have the ability to get everyone into one room and you know for a fact that there is an intruder. I wasnt trying to attack your plan for family defense. Its just not for me and I dont have a Family to worry about. I would rather try to end the situation as quickly as possible by making the bad guy leave

IN CONCLUSION

The Surefire X200B is a very practical weapon light and functions nicely on my Sig P226