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  • low94noma
    • Jun 2026

    S&W 442 Range report!

    I should have posted this a bit ago but better late than never. I have this attraction to smaller framed handguns for some reason and I picked up a G26 a bit ago and decided to pick up a J frame wheel gun. I decided to go with the Smith and Wesson 442 chambered in .38 special with the ability to handle +p's. The 642 is a nice gun as well, just a different finish but the same gun.

    After a little bit of research, I ordered a brand new 442 that Smith and Wesson made WITHOUT the lock, due to my own superstition that the cylinder would lock up on me. I handled the firearm with the lock at another gun store and was quite surprised how heavy the trigger was. Turned out not to be a problem since this revolver was designed as a pocket gun and there is no hammer to manipulate, heavy, but tolerable.

    I had a box of Magtech 158gr LRN ready to shoot down the tube. Note, the Safariland's comp 1 speedloaders do not work with the stock grips. I hear the Hogue Bantam grips work quite well. Before shooting, I ran a wet patch of Hopps #9 and a couple dry patches through the barrel and cylinder, a little coat of oil outside of the cylinder on both sides and the area around where the cylinder comes into contact with the barrel. I was a bit worried at the possibility of leading and the carbon buildup, not too sure what the hardness or lubricating coating they used on the bullets from Magtech, the velocity was under 900fps, but I was not going to take any chances anyway.

    I get to my spot and load up a couple mags for the Glock, put the extra mags in my mag pouch, and a cylinder full of .38 special. Upon the pull of the trigger on the 442, I was surprised how manageable the recoil was on this compact revolver. They are not +p's but they are 158gr heavy lead bullets. I was able to fire 50 rounds through with no problem. Maintain a firm grip and you are good to go. After switching back to the G26, recoil was noticeably less that the 442, not by much. I felt I was still able to make good follow-up shots, and good consistency with 1 handed strong hand shooting. Accuracy wise, I can not comment on that too much as I was just testing the firearm on this trip. I still was able to hit a Pepsi can consistently at 10 yards if I were doing my part.

    All in all, I am very happy with my purchase, I know the trigger will smooth out to a consistent pull with time as I am not worried about the heaviness as much as the smoothness. The finish is great as long as you be careful when you clean, as with any blued gun. Revolvers take a bit much more time and care to clean, but that is another something to look forward to on range day, I love cleaning my firearms after a range trip. I will update this thread in a few days to give a report on accuracy, maybe with a youtube video. I am currently getting over being sick, FLU maybe? Aren't you Calgunners happy I took the time out of my day from being sick to write this? Stay tuned for an accuracy update and some pictures later on.
    Last edited by Guest; 08-30-2009, 3:09 PM.
  • #2
    DougJ
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1812

    Thanks for the report. I've got a no-lock 642 on lay-a-way right now. Hopefully my wife can handle it well and it'll be her CCW primary when the time comes.
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    • #3

      Originally posted by DougJ
      Thanks for the report. I've got a no-lock 642 on lay-a-way right now. Hopefully my wife can handle it well and it'll be her CCW primary when the time comes.
      Good choice on the purchase. If the trigger is too heavy, you can always have a gunsmith polish the trigger and install a spring kit, maybe even porting too if you wanted to spend the money. Lots of people would complain about spending the money on these revolvers but I think the J frames are very attractive revolvers. Everyones grip strength and technique will vary but during dry-fire practice, I can pull the trigger repeatedly with very minimal muzzle rise. On the bright side, if she does not enjoy it too much, you can always inherit it. Regardless, it will be there ready to go bang when the time is needed.

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      • #4
        ojisan
        Agent 86
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2008
        • 11763

        442
        +1,000

        Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
        I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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        • #5
          jazman
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 2140

          I have a ported no-lock 642 that I like a lot. Great gun, handles +p no worries either. I put wood stocks on it and it made a big difference in comfort while shooting. Dry fire it a ton and see how the trigger is before you pay to have work done. If you want to tweak it, I highly recommend Marc Morganti at Gemini Customs, he does outstanding work on J-frames.
          I've posted this pic before, this is what is looks like after Marc's work:
          Originally posted by Kestryll
          You're boned.
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          • #6
            den888
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2009
            • 10520

            Thanks for the report on the 442 !

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            • #7

              Originally posted by den888
              Thanks for the report on the 442 !
              Not a problem, I love this little gun, just have to get back out there now for a accuracy report with a video hopefully.

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              • #8

                Originally posted by jazman
                I have a ported no-lock 642 that I like a lot. Great gun, handles +p no worries either. I put wood stocks on it and it made a big difference in comfort while shooting. Dry fire it a ton and see how the trigger is before you pay to have work done. If you want to tweak it, I highly recommend Marc Morganti at Gemini Customs, he does outstanding work on J-frames.
                I've posted this pic before, this is what is looks like after Marc's work:
                That 642 looks great, and the wood grips make it pop! I was going to upgrade grips, but I am worried about the slipperiness of wood grips. I have also heard good things about Gemini Customs. Testing the trigger is a must, but I am adapting to the trigger pull nicely, especially with the dry-fire practice.

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                • #9
                  matrix056
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 684

                  I also have the 442, I love it! Very much a point and shoot gun, with a very heavy trigger for a good reason...If its in your pocket. I put the Hogue grip on it, made a world of difference since you have a very limited surface area to hold on to.

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                  • #10
                    maxicon
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 4661

                    Originally posted by low94noma
                    That 642 looks great, and the wood grips make it pop! I was going to upgrade grips, but I am worried about the slipperiness of wood grips. I have also heard good things about Gemini Customs. Testing the trigger is a must, but I am adapting to the trigger pull nicely, especially with the dry-fire practice.
                    Laser grips are a great accessory for a 642/442. Between the mediocre sights and the fact that it's a short-range gun, they're a huge help for fast shooting.

                    Like any aiming aid, you don't want to rely on them completely, but the 642's a perfect use for them, IMO.
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                    • #11
                      SwissFluCase
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1322

                      Originally posted by jazman
                      I have a ported no-lock 642 that I like a lot. Great gun, handles +p no worries either. I put wood stocks on it and it made a big difference in comfort while shooting. Dry fire it a ton and see how the trigger is before you pay to have work done. If you want to tweak it, I highly recommend Marc Morganti at Gemini Customs, he does outstanding work on J-frames.
                      I've posted this pic before, this is what is looks like after Marc's work:
                      How is firing that thing in the dark?

                      Nice looking gun. I really like the hammerless J-frames.

                      Regards,


                      SwissFluCase
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                      • #12
                        jazman
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2140

                        Originally posted by SwissFluCase
                        How is firing that thing in the dark?

                        Nice looking gun. I really like the hammerless J-frames.

                        Regards,


                        SwissFluCase
                        In low light you get a V shape fire coming out of the 6 ports. Never have fired it in the dark but I guess it would be more of the same.
                        Originally posted by Kestryll
                        You're boned.
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                        • #13

                          Originally posted by maxicon
                          Laser grips are a great accessory for a 642/442. Between the mediocre sights and the fact that it's a short-range gun, they're a huge help for fast shooting.

                          Like any aiming aid, you don't want to rely on them completely, but the 642's a perfect use for them, IMO.
                          I was considering throwing some Crimson Trace grips on here but I can not find the discontinued model LG-205 anywhere. I need them brand new but I am sure some gun shop in the US still has some LG-205's somewhere. Not looking for a grip size upgrade or a master on/off switch.

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                          • #14
                            maxicon
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 4661

                            Originally posted by low94noma
                            I was considering throwing some Crimson Trace grips on here but I can not find the discontinued model LG-205 anywhere. I need them brand new but I am sure some gun shop in the US still has some LG-205's somewhere. Not looking for a grip size upgrade or a master on/off switch.
                            I didn't know they discontinued the LG-205. You might ask over at www.smith-wessonforum.com to see if anyone has a line on them. I picked up a barely used pair there a few years back for a great price, and the simplicity and size are perfect for me.
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                            • #15
                              WARDOG
                              Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 163

                              I carried a 642-1 as an on-duty backup for 15 years.
                              I kept it in a ballistic vest holster under my right armpit (Strongside).
                              My theory being if I was unable to draw my primary SIG P220, or if I was trying to keep my primary retained in the holster in an attemted takeaway from a bad guy, I could push the SIG down into the holster for retention with my strong hand, rip open my uniform shirt with my left and draw that little gut shot revolver and disperse some lead.
                              Great little S&W since there are so few moving parts that could get jammed up in close quarters like a semi-auto back-up. I tried many backups before I settled on the 642 Smith.... Colt Mustang, Mustang Gov't, and other small 9mm semi's. The 642 was the answer with a short boot grip.
                              Now that I am retired, it's my wife's gun, and we just bought a 642 for my son as a back-up.
                              The people of the United States are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.
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