Turners spreading more FUD?

[neomentat]

So I was at Turners today and the guy there was telling me that in California, if you don't lock your guns with a CA legal lock, and it subsequently gets stolen and is used in a crime, then you're guilty of a felony.

I have never heard of such a thing, is this more FUD being spread by Turners? Or is there some truth to this?


this same employee also said "H&K uses Kevlar in their polymer pistol frame which is way stronger than Glock's polymer frame".


The last time I checked Kevlar is a type of weave, how the hell can molded polymer be even considered Kevlar? Turners have some idiots for employees.

[OCya]

Well those locks aren't even stronger than bike locks. The key looks like the kind that is used for luggage.

I say big BS.

[paul0660]

It is fud. After a crime no one knows if it was locked up or not, and you can't really believe the criminal. However, you could become a defendant in a civil case, and juries are wacky. If you have a gun and don't have a safe, I think you are making a mistake.

[Rekrab]

It IS a felony if you have an unlocked gun with children in the house though right?

Maybe it's some weird extrapolation of that?

[paul0660]

I don't have time to look it up, but if you have a gun + ammo and a kid gets it and someone get hurts yes you are in trouble.

Easy to prevent.........and NOT by telling the kid not to, btw.

[rrr70]

I don't have time to look it up, but if you have a gun + ammo and a kid gets it and someone get hurts yes you are in trouble.

Unless you are a cop.

[Blacklist231]

you may be guilty of a felony if a child gains access to that firearm and thereby causes death or injury to any person unless the firearm was in a secure locked container or locked with a locking device that rendered it inoperable.

(PC Section 12035-12036)

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[neomentat]

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yes I know the locked gun requirement with kids in the house. however, the turners guy specifically said "if your gun is not locked, stolen and then used in a crime" then you're guilty of a felony

[HUTCH 7.62]

Another reason why we call this place Kommiefornia. Personally I'm gonna rape this state for all its money and move to a free state.

[dfletcher]

As I understand it, the Children’s Firearm Accident Prevention Act of 1991 states that a person who keeps a loaded firearm where a child obtains and improperly uses it has violated CA law. I think it's interesting that the violation occurs not when you stuff that locked & cocked 1911 under the mattress, but rather when the kid picks it up and acidentally shoots the next door neighbor's cat. But as the law is written, it seems to me that if the same kid picks up the same gun under the same circumstances and correctly shoots a bad guy come to hurt him, no violation has occured.

Not saying that's the thing to do, but I do find the wording interesting - must be a specific reason for it I suppose.

[Army]

No, the guy is full of FUD. There is NO legal requirement to keep firearms locked or inoperable 24/7.

[strangerdude]

So I was at Turners today and the guy there was telling me that in California, if you don't lock your guns with a CA legal lock, and it subsequently gets stolen and is used in a crime, then you're guilty of a felony.

I have never heard of such a thing, is this more FUD being spread by Turners? Or is there some truth to this?

Tell me, when don't they spread fud? Turner's Is full of idiots.

[RaceDay]

Unless you are a cop.

Yeah, then instead of going to jail, you get to file a lawsuit.

[trendar5]

Yeah, then instead of going to jail, you get to file a lawsuit.

Can you two guys elaborate? Was there an incident in Southern California that I didn't hear about that makes you post this? Just curious....

[rrr70]

Can you two guys elaborate? Was there an incident in Southern California that I didn't hear about that makes you post this? Just curious....

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/gun-lawsuit-alleges-2089579-chavez-shot

http://lapdblog.typepad.com/lapd_blog/2006/07/officer_enrique.html