Springfield drops 6 new TRP models.

[stormvet]

I like the looks and features, if I was in the market for a new 1911 I?d consider it.

https://www.guns.com/news/2024/01/18/springfield-armory-adds-6-new-trp-1911-models

[SDM44]

They were introduced at SHOT last month, and if you look on youtube there's a bunch of review videos on them.

I'm more interested to see if (or possibly when) these might get submitted for testing to get onto the roster.

[acaligunner]

Nice ~

But, is Springfield going to make these ca legal ?

For a long time I was looking for a new MC Operator never found one so I bought a Wilson and a Nighthawk ~ if these ? new ? TRP?s are going to be $1,900 + otd - I might just buy a Les Baer 1911 for $2,100.

If we get to see these SA 1911?s that be cool - but when will we be able to see them in ca is the question and then for what price.

Cool !

[stormvet]

Won’t even guess on the Cal roster.

MSRP is always higher than retail sales price, I’d guess probably around $1600. I bought my TRP 11 years ago, it’s always run great for me. Only real problem after ditching the crappy two piece guide rod is sharp edges. A melt job is badly needed on them, at least the ones made 10 years ago. Running them hard fast and long is like putting your hands through a meat grinder, wear gloves. I’m not talking about the checking, the edges and high points on the gun just need to be knocked down a bit to remove the sharp edges.

But as far as running the gun, never any reliability or parts brackages.

[acaligunner]

Won?t even guess on the Cal roster.

MSRP is always higher than retail sales price, I?d guess probably around $1600. I bought my TRP 11 years ago, it?s always run great for me. Only real problem after ditching the crappy two piece guide rod is sharp edges. A melt job is badly needed on them, at least the ones made 10 years ago. Running them hard fast and long is like putting your hands through a meat grinder, wear gloves. I?m not talking about the checking, the edges and high points on the gun just need to be knocked down a bit to remove the sharp edges.

But as far as running the gun, never any reliability or parts brackages.

Always have liked the TRP / MC Operator 1911?s, TRP was always the rockstar in the lineup. Glad it all worked out for you ( except the sharpness lol ) many more enjoyable shoots with the TRP stormvet

[boltstop]

Zero chance that these will ever be on the roster - no chamber load indicator and no magazine disconnect.

[newbie1234]

Nice ~

But, is Springfield going to make these ca legal ?

For a long time I was looking for a new MC Operator never found one so I bought a Wilson and a Nighthawk ~ if these ? new ? TRP?s are going to be $1,900 + otd - I might just buy a Les Baer 1911 for $2,100.

If we get to see these SA 1911?s that be cool - but when will we be able to see them in ca is the question and then for what price.

Cool !

I might just buy a Les Baer 1911 for $2,100 $2800. (2024 price)

[Quiet]

I'm more interested to see if (or possibly when) these might get submitted for testing to get onto the roster.

But, is Springfield going to make these ca legal ?

If we get to see these SA 1911's that be cool - but when will we be able to see them in ca is the question and then for what price.

Won't even guess on the Cal roster.

Zero chance that these will ever be on the roster - no chamber load indicator and no magazine disconnect.

Since there are currently three 5" barrel variants of the Springfield Armory TRP on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale, Springfield Armory can attempt to utilize an exemption to get the new 5" barrel variants listed on-Roster. [PC 32030]

The exemption bypasses the need for a CLI and MDM, because the current on-Roster variants do not have them.

So, its up to Springfield Armory if they want to submit the new eligible variants to be listed on-Roster or not. [PC 32030(b)]




Penal Code 32030
(a) A firearm shall be deemed to satisfy the requirements of subdivision (a) of Section 32015 if another firearm made by the same manufacturer is already listed and the unlisted firearm differs from the listed firearm only in one or more of the following features:
(1) Finish, including, but not limited to, bluing, chrome-plating, oiling, or engraving.
(2) The material from which the grips are made.
(3) The shape or texture of the grips, so long as the difference in grip shape or texture does not in any way alter the dimensions, material, linkage, or functioning of the magazine well, the barrel, the chamber, or any of the components of the firing mechanism of the firearm.
(4) Any other purely cosmetic feature that does not in any way alter the dimensions, material, linkage, or functioning of the magazine well, the barrel, the chamber, or any of the components of the firing mechanism of the firearm.
(b) Any manufacturer seeking to have a firearm listed under this section shall provide to the Department of Justice all of the following:
(1) The model designation of the listed firearm.
(2) The model designation of each firearm that the manufacturer seeks to have listed under this section.
(3) A statement, under oath, that each unlisted firearm for which listing is sought differs from the listed firearm only in one or more of the ways identified in subdivision (a) and is in all other respects identical to the listed firearm.
(c) The department may, in its discretion and at any time, require a manufacturer to provide to the department any model for which listing is sought under this section, to determine whether the model complies with the requirements of this section.

[Zenderfall]

So, its up to Springfield Armory if they want to submit the new eligible variants to be listed on-Roster or not. [PC 32030(b)]

Certainly is possible! The sights have to be of the older variant, because sights do change dimensions of the gun, even if its slight. And sights don't fall into the category of color, material, grip differences.

Also the rail has to be factored in, although there are two models with full rails on the roster.

If Springfield does do this, it would be a "CA only" model, as it would look and feel different than the 49 state model because of the slight tweaks to meet roster requirements.

[Quiet]

Certainly is possible! The sights have to be of the older variant, because sights do change dimensions of the gun, even if its slight. And sights don't fall into the category of color, material, grip differences.

Also the rail has to be factored in, although there are two models with full rails on the roster.

If Springfield does do this, it would be a "CA only" model, as it would look and feel different than the 49 state model because of the slight tweaks to meet roster requirements.

The sights and rail do not matter because they do not alter "the dimensions, material, linkage, or functioning of the magazine well, the barrel, the chamber, or any of the components of the firing mechanism of the firearm".

[tmorse]

Zero chance that these will ever be on the roster - no chamber load indicator and no magazine disconnect.

I emailed Springfield about the commander length TRPs and that is what they said. So pretty definitely a no go for the commander size.

[sitruc]

Added in 2024 and no Optics-ready version? They either have the ownership over the Echelon's VIS optics mounting copyright or have a license from HS Produkt and elected not to use it. They already have the DS Prodigy that is milled for optics so they have the machining capability...

[Quiet]

Zero chance that these will ever be on the roster - no chamber load indicator and no magazine disconnect.

I emailed Springfield about the commander length TRPs and that is what they said. So pretty definitely a no go for the commander size.

This is correct.

There are no commander sized TRP variants currently on-Roster, so none of the new commander sized TRP pistols are eligible for the exemption, which means they need a CLI and MDM in order to be eligible for testing to be listed on-Roster.

Only the new full sized TRP pistols are eligible for the exemption.

[acaligunner]

This is correct.

There are no commander sized TRP variants currently on-Roster, so none of the new commander sized TRP pistols are eligible for the exemption, which means they need a CLI and MDM in order to be eligible for testing to be listed on-Roster.

Only the new full sized TRP pistols are eligible for the exemption.

This is why I bought my Wilson and Nighthawk ~ because ca will come out with some bs non eligible whatever down the road.

Ca keeps denying us the right to new firearms and then we have to read every line of things just to pull our hairs out once again. Oh man

[Zenderfall]

The sights and rail do not matter because they do not alter "the dimensions, material, linkage, or functioning of the magazine well, the barrel, the chamber, or any of the components of the firing mechanism of the firearm".

This is even better then. Springfield doesn?t have to do much to get these on roster.