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  • Tripplet918
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2022
    • 908

    Having a bad experience with Stacatto (Issue Solved by CG)

    Im trying to remove the iron sights and turning the bolt twisted my allen wrenches. Two of them.

    I called support and they said to buy T handle. I bought Bondhus T handle allen wrench. It about as good as I know for these things. That one twisted too and lost some edges.

    So disappointed right now. Filing warranty. I havent marred the pistol yet, but the bolt maybe toast.

    Amateur. Crap.

    Last edited by Tripplet918; 11-10-2023, 4:55 PM.
  • #2
    OCEquestrian
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2017
    • 6905

    Originally posted by Tripplet918
    I havent marred the pistol yet, but the slide bolt maybe toast.
    FIFY
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    • #3
      Tripplet918
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2022
      • 908

      Originally posted by OCEquestrian
      FIFY
      Nope. Slides fine. The bolt that hold the sight/optic plate may have rounded a bit. I stopped and will be sending it in.

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      • #4
        D.A.V.I.D.
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        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2015
        • 1876

        Had this happen on one of mine, took a torch to it shortly and it came right out.

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        • #5
          IVC
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 17640

          A lot of factory guns come with all sorts of thread lockers that are equivalent of Loctite Red, or stronger. This is true for everything, from all sorts of small screws to the handguards and barrel nuts.

          If it doesn't move under reasonable force, use heat. If it still doesn't work, check for set screws (not in your case, obviously) and look up the specific model and manufacturer. It sucks that they do it, but it's for a reason. They'd rather have someone upset they can't work on their gun than have someone upset that their brand new gun came apart.
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          • #6
            Tripplet918
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2022
            • 908

            Originally posted by D.A.V.I.D.
            Had this happen on one of mine, took a torch to it shortly and it came right out.
            How did u apply heat?

            I put the small wrench on mine and heated it with a torch. Thats when the T-handle rounded off a bit.

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            • #7
              Tripplet918
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2022
              • 908

              Originally posted by IVC
              A lot of factory guns come with all sorts of thread lockers that are equivalent of Loctite Red, or stronger. This is true for everything, from all sorts of small screws to the handguards and barrel nuts.

              If it doesn't move under reasonable force, use heat. If it still doesn't work, check for set screws (not in your case, obviously) and look up the specific model and manufacturer. It sucks that they do it, but it's for a reason. They'd rather have someone upset they can't work on their gun than have someone upset that their brand new gun came apart.
              Yeah, I understand that part. Part of my frustration is that they walked me through it after I started having difficulty. Using heat, a better tool and confirmation that they use blue loctite, nothing worked. Been at this for three days, including waiting on the new tool.

              Its going back. I have put as much force within reason on a 3/32 allen bolt. I suspect the retaining bolt is butted up against the rear iron sight, preventing it from coming out. Thats as best I can tell from what I see.
              Last edited by Tripplet918; 11-10-2023, 2:30 PM.

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              • #8
                74elko
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Feb 2009
                • 519

                Originally posted by Tripplet918
                How did u apply heat?

                I put the small wrench on mine and heated it with a torch. Thats when the T-handle rounded off a bit.


                Use a soldering iron. Hold the tip on the center of the bolt and let it heat up
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                • #9
                  Tripplet918
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2022
                  • 908

                  Originally posted by 74elko
                  Use a soldering iron. Hold the tip on the center of the bolt and let it heat up
                  Unfortunately, thats not possible. The bolt is only accessible through a small hole on the top of the rear sight. It fits an allen wrench, not much else. I tried 3 different soldering irons and it would get in.

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                  • #10
                    D.A.V.I.D.
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                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 1876

                    Originally posted by Tripplet918
                    How did u apply heat?

                    I put the small wrench on mine and heated it with a torch. Thats when the T-handle rounded off a bit.
                    I put the torch directly to the sight aimed at the screw, not with the wrench in already. then put the wrench in and loosened it. But the same thing happened the tool they included just bent like your picture then did that and I gave it some force and it was like it snapped loose. I definitely get any hesitation wanting to do that though. I don't know what they're putting on there but when I got it out it didn't seem like there was an excessive amount of anything on the threads.

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                    • #11
                      Tripplet918
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2022
                      • 908

                      Originally posted by D.A.V.I.D.
                      I put the torch directly to the sight aimed at the screw, not with the wrench in already. then put the wrench in and loosened it. But the same thing happened the tool they included just bent like your picture then did that and I gave it some force and it was like it snapped loose. I definitely get any hesitation wanting to do that though. I don't know what they're putting on there but when I got it out it didn't seem like there was an excessive amount of anything on the threads.
                      Man, you aimed a butane torch directly at the gun? You are a brave man. Thanks though. Given your experience, I put the gun back on the bench, drifted the sight, and put a hot soldering iron to the bolt for 5 minutes. The bolt broke loose. I really didnt wanna to drift the sight so I could swap back and forth with the red dot, but it was between rezero'ing the sight, or putting a torch to the gun directly. It wasnt a hard choice.



                      Last edited by Tripplet918; 11-10-2023, 4:54 PM.

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                      • #12
                        D.A.V.I.D.
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                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 1876

                        Yeah it?s all metal and could care less about the iron sight plate. Never gonna use it. Hopefully you have better luck than me with your p2. Me and the only two people I know that have had them have all had to send ours back for replacements. Did your c2 come with carry sights or is it just the angle of the picture. Front sight looks short.

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