Steyr GB

[DIRKMAES]

I hope i'm in the correct forum for this, but here is my question:

With the new Judge Benitez ruling that came Friday, September 22, 2023
Am I allowed to list my Steyr GB with its 18 round magazines for sale on the appropriate forum?

Thank you

[BigPimping]

That ruling is far from being a law. It?s being appealed and will probably be up in the air for a while. Sell your gun and sell the mags out of state.

[Dooder]

Block the mags and then do what you want with it.

[Harland Barricuda]

Block the mags and then do what you want with it.

Agreed, I see no reason to sell it out of state when you can block it with a plastic or wood dowel and give it to the buyer outside the FFL. Don't leave it with the FFL, it might "go missing"

[dfletcher]

I hope i'm in the correct forum for this, but here is my question:

With the new Judge Benitez ruling that came Friday, September 22, 2023
Am I allowed to list my Steyr GB with its 18 round magazines for sale on the appropriate forum?

Thank you

Block the magazines and post the gun and mags in the for sale forum.

I have a Steyr GB and half dozen mags. Two or three mags cost about the same as the gun. Factory 10 rounders don't exist, so if being sold in state unless someone wants a single shot GB the 10 rounders will have to go with.

Could wait a few weeks and see what happens. Not like the price of those mags will drop.

[DIRKMAES]

Thank you for the reply's.

Ive been told blocking the mags change the spring rate and can cause double feeds.
Maybe I'm overthinking it and should do it and sell it.

[Like2fly]

Question for the mob….. If I am buying a gun, that has mags with over 10 round capacity, from a private party in Cali, is there any legal issue with completing the purchase of the gun (at FFL via PPT) and having the seller mail the “high capacity” mags to a relative out of state, with no intention of receiving these mags until the law changes in California, or until I move to another state? I have considered offering this option to a seller that does not want to block the mags, and in which case I would provide a pre-paid, addressed envelope to the seller, at the time we start the DROS, so I would not actually take possession of the mags. Have never done this yet, but presume this would be OK?

[Harland Barricuda]

have them block it with a piece of plastic or wood glued or epoxied to the floor plate, which makes it "permanently affixed" per legal requirement, that's how a lot of out of state vendors are importing normal mags into the state. if the buyer takes it apart, the magazine ceases to be a magazine and becomes magazine parts. whatever they do with it thereafter is of no legal consequence to the seller. they can clean it and put it back together, and by legal definition, it again becomes a magazine with permanently affixed magazine block, since the part that is epoxied is mandatory for the functioning of the magazine.

now if the buyer were to break the epoxy or replace the floor plate with one without an attached magazine block, once reassembled, he would be manufacturing a high capacity magazine. again, that's of no consequence to the seller. the seller has followed all legal requirements, and breaking the epoxy or replacing the floor plate is no different than a buyer removing a rivet or flattening a divot.

[ar15barrels]

I hope i'm in the correct forum for this, but here is my question:

With the new Judge Benitez ruling that came Friday, September 22, 2023
Am I allowed to list my Steyr GB with its 18 round magazines for sale on the appropriate forum?

Thank you

No.
The ruling is currently stayed which means it has no force of law at this time.

You would be breaking a law by advertising large capacity magazines for sale.

[DIRKMAES]

Thank you AR15, makes total sense.
I'm in a continual holding pattern.

[hambam105]

If it's fun and logical it's against the law.

[Saigon1965]

This is the gun that I am co-defendant of in this case -

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