more info? GKY Outfitters/Loyal Firearms Off-Roster handguns...

[bwiese]

They are not getting 'virgin frames' (i.e, to avoid tagged as semiauto).

Reliable reports tell me GKY is re-marking the guns (07 FFL?). They are
are then being DROSed as GKYs and not HK, Staccato, etc. They appear to
then be SSE2'd as such before xfer/pickup.

The actual wording of AB1964 modification to PC 12133 (and the renumbered
section) really doesn't have restriction by brand, just _any_ history of semiauto,
period. I don't see how that gets re-set by rebranding esp when that gun had a
documented history of mfgr (incl QA test) as a semiauto.

I'd hate to see buyers lose ~$1+K if seized. I'm unclear that relevant parties have
have cash reserves for refunds. I do not forsee the end buyers having legal issues,
just prospect of gun loss. (Which of course the FFL would not get back after seizure
to resell elsewhere and recover funds to refund back to buyers.)

The only chance for handwaving I see akin to that of the DOJ's fix for Iggy's approval
screwup on Evan's Gunsmithing of Colt ARs with fixed mags back in 2006. These guns
were remarked as "Evan's-Colt..." to not be considered listed on the Kasler list of banned
AR/AKs after a half? all? day DOJ meeting in Oct 2006.

[taperxz]

again, GKY is playing fire, and once CADOJ finds it, CADOJ is going to shut down the entire "SSE2.0", end of game. ( just like how CADOJ shut down the Colt gold cup few years ago)

DOJ did not and has not shut that down.

[jimbo74]

So this is the same as saying my gun identifies as.... so then it's not illegal. I get it.

[bwiese]

DOJ did not and has not shut that down.

Yup, but this is totally different

[dummykid]

DOJ did not and has not shut that down.

U mean DOJ still allow gold cup to be purchased ?


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[taperxz]

U mean DOJ still allow gold cup to be purchased ?


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All i'm going to say is that DOJ issued no formal letter saying that the Colt Gold Cup was not considered C&R.

[PortsideMunitions]

overpaying for a single shot gun only to have it confiscated by DOJ, sounds like a great place to shop. LOL. I got so much backlash from these FFL's that are participating in it that I just gave up. I just hope it doesn't affect real SSE2.0 down the road when it comes crashing down.

[ugimports]

Yes, this is an old thread, but has anyone heard any updates about this company? I was going to check their website to see if any new news (regards to positive legal news, such as something from a law firm like Mich & Assoc) and it appears down. Not sure if they just changed names or if anyone has heard anything? Google is not useful in this regard.

[Quiet]

Yes, this is an old thread, but has anyone heard any updates about this company? I was going to check their website to see if any new news (regards to positive legal news, such as something from a law firm like Mich & Assoc) and it appears down. Not sure if they just changed names or if anyone has heard anything? Google is not useful in this regard.

If you run GKY Outfitters FFL #5-75-085-01-5L-22832 through the BATFE FFL eZ Check website it comes up as invalid and contact BATFE for assistance.

[SandHill]

I couldn't find a similar meme with CADOJ on the hat.

Not CADOJ.jpg

[olddirtygerm]

They seem to have an Instagram that was posted on as recently as 6 days ago. Facebook is still up. They are apparently local to me but I assume at this point it's probably a few feds and a laptop.

https://www.instagram.com/gky_outfitters

https://www.facebook.com/gkyoutfitters

[Balanar322]

Very sketchy, my post following up on GKY Outfitters/Paran Research got shadowbanned on reddit?

I was just asking how they and their partner FFLs were able to SSE both Staccato and CZ Shadow 2 frames when both of these companies don't offer virgin frames.

[noyou]

its a very grey area. i remember they had a long explanation to me about a year ago, might still have an email or something, but so far they expanded outside 2011s

[ugimports]

its a very grey area. i remember they had a long explanation to me about a year ago, might still have an email or something, but so far they expanded outside 2011s

I understand their explanation. I don't see how remanufacturing their pistol makes it never to have started as semi-auto. E.g., if a lawyer asked them in a court of law something to the effect of:
Describe your manufacturing process of your single shot pistols from sourcing the materials to the manufacturing process?

How would they describe the sourcing of materials other than purchasing a completed semi-auto pistol from Acme Co?

It's all grey right now because it hasn't been challenged. It just doesn't pass the sniff test to me still. Had the manufacturers they are replicating pistols from actually sold frames of their equivalent semi-auto pistols I would be much less questioning the process. Or if they had made deals with said manufacturers to create the pistols as Single Shot from the factory as I know another CA dealers have then it would be much less questionable.

[olddirtygerm]

I think they've come to the conclusion that what they're were doing wouldn't fly or received a visit since they've gone dark