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Staccato is NOT STI. The folks who own and run Staccato are not the original owners of STI. Sandy Strayer and Virgil Tripp started STI in the early 90s, with Strayer leaving STI a few years later to start SVI firearms, now known as Infinity. Dave and Shirley Skinner bought STI from Tripp, who went on to to team with Chip McCormmick to make mags and parts in the 1911 world. The Skinners then sold the company to the STI employees in 2005, and they hired different CEOs while making competition guns, finally being acquired by Westwind Investors in late 2017 and placing current Staccato CEO Nate Horvath in as CEO, and the brains behind the revamp, to completely scrap the previous STI models and create from scratch new 2011s for the LE and duty market in 2018. After coming up with the prototype P model, and thoroughly tested with LE departments in 2018-19, they finalized their company goals and changed their name to Staccato in 2020.
As far as the magazines, the STI one's were made by STI themselves and they did a piss poor job on design and manufacturing, the reason competitors had to tune them in between matches. One of the main reasons Delta disqualified the STI gun (NOT Staccato) from duty consideration was the mags. Later Horvath completely scrapped the STI mags and had an outside company redesign and manufacture them. Here, Larry Vickers explains more about the history of STI/Staccato.
Here is my Staccato P purchased early last year. I have approx. 2000 rds thru it so far, and it has been 100% reliable with different ammo, including my reloads. It is by far the best, flattest shooting 9mm I have (compared to my P-series Sigs, Glocks, Rugers, Walthers), it rivals my Wilson EDC X9L 9mm in accuracy, both now my favorite 9mm handguns, bar none. It shoots faster and better than my past Gen 5 Glock G17 with a Holosun 507c, and my Staccato has no optic. Comes with three mags (2-17s, 1- 20). It has replaced my old G17 MOS as my main home defense handgun and is also one of my favorite range guns. I have already gotten rid of most of my Glocks and some of my Sigs and staying with the 1911/2011 platform. Both my Wilson EDC X9L and Staccato P are so reliable and outstanding shooters, if they were the only handguns I own, that would be just fine with me.
The hype is very real, it really is that good. Here in Texas, all of the gun guys I come across want one bad, it is the most talked about handgun here. And it is 100% made in Texas. But it is also designed for the LE market, it is one of the most popular sidearms for the Texas Rangers, along with the Sig 320.
I do not use the 26rd 170mm mags, but my 17 and 20 rd ones have been 100% reliable, along with the gun. Not one FTE, FTF, etc. Double stack 9mm Staccato mags have a great reputation for reliability.
As far as the magazines, the STI one's were made by STI themselves and they did a piss poor job on design and manufacturing, the reason competitors had to tune them in between matches. One of the main reasons Delta disqualified the STI gun (NOT Staccato) from duty consideration was the mags. Later Horvath completely scrapped the STI mags and had an outside company redesign and manufacture them. Here, Larry Vickers explains more about the history of STI/Staccato.
Here is my Staccato P purchased early last year. I have approx. 2000 rds thru it so far, and it has been 100% reliable with different ammo, including my reloads. It is by far the best, flattest shooting 9mm I have (compared to my P-series Sigs, Glocks, Rugers, Walthers), it rivals my Wilson EDC X9L 9mm in accuracy, both now my favorite 9mm handguns, bar none. It shoots faster and better than my past Gen 5 Glock G17 with a Holosun 507c, and my Staccato has no optic. Comes with three mags (2-17s, 1- 20). It has replaced my old G17 MOS as my main home defense handgun and is also one of my favorite range guns. I have already gotten rid of most of my Glocks and some of my Sigs and staying with the 1911/2011 platform. Both my Wilson EDC X9L and Staccato P are so reliable and outstanding shooters, if they were the only handguns I own, that would be just fine with me.
The hype is very real, it really is that good. Here in Texas, all of the gun guys I come across want one bad, it is the most talked about handgun here. And it is 100% made in Texas. But it is also designed for the LE market, it is one of the most popular sidearms for the Texas Rangers, along with the Sig 320.
I do not use the 26rd 170mm mags, but my 17 and 20 rd ones have been 100% reliable, along with the gun. Not one FTE, FTF, etc. Double stack 9mm Staccato mags have a great reputation for reliability.
Persoanlly I don't get the big deal about them (2011 on general).
Sure it has great recoil but run on timer it isn't that much different vs a p365xl macro for me (no comp on either). Say 2.6 vs 2.25 for a clean bill drill.
Other benchmarks close enough too (where unless competing the fractions of seconds for split times doesn't make a diff)
Stacatto does make a great gun and they are local to me. The guys there that I have met are great but I don't get the big deal. Most of the guys that I know that lust for one shoot less then 10k rounds a year. Plenty of guys I compete with got a stacatto or three then promptly went back to shadows
That said I rock a p365 in comp so what do I know.
If I had to own a 2011 it be a stacatto, but after spending a lot of time on mine (sold) and numerous friend's guns I don't see the big deal. Nice for static range shooting. Benefits lost on me for more dynamic shooting.
That said I in general hate guns with external safeties.
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