Thanks

[smittty]

Man... I tell ya...

For the life of me I just am not doing well with my first Glock.

JOe

It's not the gun. It's you!

I know because I thought it was the gun when I had my first Glock and sold it after a year of owning it and not shooting it nearly as well as my other guns. Many guns later I decided to get another Glock and now I'm tagging the 25 yard plates all day long.

Imagine that you have to reteach yourself how to shoot. Start with paper targets at 5 yards and work on the sight picture and trigger until you have nice tight groups. Then move the target to 7 yards and repeat, then 15 and beyond.

I always start my range sessions on paper targets at 5-7 yards. 2 mags per gun and then plink away at the fun targets. Every time I shoot a different gun, I start on paper to learn the sight picture and to see where it shoots. This way I'm not guessing or wasting ammo.


Smitty

[flatovercrest]

I was never able to shoot my G19 well, while could achieve excellent grouping with all my berettas.
I ended up selling the glock and buying another beretta..

[smittty]

More time and more rounds down range with the Glock will do the trick...

and your target talks:

There are several versions of this. Some are for one handed right hand, one handed left hand, two handed right hand, etc. Make sure you find the right one for the hold you use. Google "trigger analysis" and you should find them.

Smitty

[G17GUY]

Balance an empty shell case on top of your slide while dry fireing it about 1000 times.

[ERdept]

I had trouble initially with the Glocks as well getting spoiled on the 1911 pull, but I really have to focus much more with the G and squeeze and hold steady all the way through the pull.

[bsim]

The glock grip is angled much more than the 1911/XD type grips. If you're using the same grip / hand position you use with the other guns, it WILL shoot higher.

The glock ergonomics are what's keeping me from getting one - just doesn't feel natural to me...

[smittty]

Balance an empty shell case on top of your slide while dry fireing it about 1000 times.

Good idea but doesn't that block the sight picture?

An old timer told me to place a pencil with the eraser end in first, all the way inside the barrel and dryfire it very close to a wall. Trick is to find a dot to aim at and squeeze the trigger so that it shoots the pencil out and marks the wall. Keep doing this and you will master the trigger, so I was told. I never tried it but it seems like it might be good practise if you had nothing else to do. I hope I never have that much time on my hands!

[Kingofthehill]

Im in no way Blaming the gun... Its doing its job, i know its me.

I'll give it another few trips out and if it doesn't get better i'll probably sell or trade it.

someone suggested other brands, I have most popular guns and i shoot them all very well My sig and XD the best... probably followed by my 1911.

i was just curious if people have simply given a platform the honest try and just not been able to make it work?... im assuming some people just hate the feel of a 1911 and/or can't make it work for them.... I think it may be that way for the glock with me.

That trigger jobs looks interesting and maybe some new sights...

A member here just offered me to shoot his (same gun) with a trigger job and XS Big Dot sight...

I think that would be a step in the right direction.

Thanks guys.

JOe

[Jerkdog]

It's pretty common to have problems with Glock triggers.

This may help: http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm

It's a good illustration of what you "may" be doing wrong...for me it's jerking (go figure).

[trinydex]

what happens when you dry fire very close at a wall? does the muzzle move? if it does find a way to actuate trigger without moving muzzle.

[Oldnoob]

Hey Joe, is this the Glock you trade you CZ for?

I found that lots "experienced" shooters (that don't shoot Glock) will have more have trouble with Glock trigger as compare to new shooter start with Glock. And I believe is because the 2 stages Glock trigger (just a term I came out with). Glock striker fire system is unlike normal SAO, DAO or DA/SA, when the slide was racked, the firing pin is in half cocked stage (more like 75% cocked). And the pre-travel of trigger set the firing pin to full cocked, than once your trigger break it release the firing pin.

So to master Glock trigger is to be familiar with it's pre-travel stage and know when/where is the trigger break. Start slow firing every shot. While you finger slowly taking out the pre-traveling make sure your sight is still on target. Once you know where/when the trigger break and you can still keep the sight on target, you should have no problem keeping a 2" group in 30 feet.

Get this a try before you do any trigger job on it.

I also learn it is easier to do this with stock 5.5 connector. If you wish to just do the one pull fire, you can get the 3.5 connector. Lots shooter like it because it make the Glock trigger felt like average DA/SA type trigger.

[Casual_Shooter]

Have someone load three magazines but leave one of them one round short.

Count the rounds but try to ignore the slide so you won't know when you're out of ammo on the short-loaded mag.

That last "blank" shot will reveal wonders about your shooting technique.

[Greg-Dawg]

i was just curious if people have simply given a platform the honest try and just not been able to make it work?... im assuming some people just hate the feel of a 1911 and/or can't make it work for them.... I think it may be that way for the glock with me.
JOe

When I first got my Glock, it took me three months to really master it. Funny thing is, after being to adjust to shooting a Glock I was able to be accurate with other pistols as well....go figure.

[Cato]

I have a lot of trouble with my HK USP 40. Like you, I can shoot it well enough for home defense (say 3 yards, man size target) but at the range I can't keep tight groups.

I really believe firearms design is an art as much as a science. All the elements must come together and "speak" to a person. My P228 works really well for me; I almost feel I'm cheating when I shoot that gun. It's too easy to shoot. Now my USP requires that I follow everything I know and plenty of concentration to get anykind of groups.

[Frostbite]

I actually had the same problem. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with my G27 or G20 but was putting rounds through the same holes with other guns. Turns out it, in my case, it was a couple of things going wrong.

--I was used to shooting DA/SA guns and the trigger pull on the Glock is heavier than my SA trigger pulls. Not a big deal here, just practiced dry firing until my sight picture didn't change much from the beginning to the end of the pull.

--I realized I was using too much trigger finger on the trigger. I adjusted to where I was only pulling the trigger with the pad of the tip of my finger and focused on squeezing the trigger straight back. Before, I was letting the trigger sit at my first knuckle and it was causing everything to go low and left.

--Changing which part of my finger was pulling the trigger caused me to change my grip on the gun so I when my finger was on the trigger, really only the tip was actually resting squarely on the trigger. Which means the grip of the gun was resting more in the web of my hand. Incidentally, this helped with reducing felt recoil as well.

That's what my problem was anyway. Your mileage may vary but suffice it to say, it's probably you and not the gun.