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  • mk2dave
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2021
    • 765

    Confused by the P320

    It seems like everyone is all excited by the offering, but I just don't get it. I tried to use the Sig design studio thingy to pique my interest, but it doesn't work so well.

    The reviews I've read are positive, but not stellar. I know you can change stuff... but once you've made what you wanted, do you really want to change it? If you wanted a 9mm for carry and a 45 for a range toy, it would cost you $1400-1500. Or the price of 2 Glocks.

    This seems like a solution in search of a problem. This is going to seem far fetched... If we lived somewhere you could only have a limited number of pistols, then I'd get the point of the 320. But we don't. Yet.
  • #2
    static2126
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2013
    • 5619

    Originally posted by mk2dave
    It seems like everyone is all excited by the offering, but I just don't get it. I tried to use the Sig design studio thingy to pique my interest, but it doesn't work so well.

    The reviews I've read are positive, but not stellar. I know you can change stuff... but once you've made what you wanted, do you really want to change it? If you wanted a 9mm for carry and a 45 for a range toy, it would cost you $1400-1500. Or the price of 2 Glocks.

    This seems like a solution in search of a problem. This is going to seem far fetched... If we lived somewhere you could only have a limited number of pistols, then I'd get the point of the 320. But we don't. Yet.
    Personally agree on p320. Don't even like shooting thst gun

    P365 however is a different animal. Imo best gun out right not for carry is a macro frame and xl slide.

    Pulled me away from my beloved g19

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    • #3
      anonymous308
      • Feb 2015
      • 572

      I dont disagree. Once you have it in your ideal configuration why the need to change it up? I’d rather buy another handgun if I wanted to switch between a carry gun and range gun.

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      • #4
        Djantlive
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2021
        • 612

        I don’t own any glocks bc I just don’t shoot that well with them for some reason.

        P320 is a bit too big imo. The 365 is better now that you can get a 17rd macro.

        Imo, the fcu platform is more flexible. You can put a fcu into a pdw for example raider, x01, strike industry etc. these pdw are far superior to other glock based braces as they are not limited to the handgun shape so can be more concealable and compact. The ability to change grip model and thus mag capacity is more optimal than having to deal with ccw changes.
        Last edited by Djantlive; 03-02-2023, 10:11 PM.

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        • #5
          deckhandmike
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2011
          • 8325

          Originally posted by anonymous308
          I dont disagree. Once you have it in your ideal configuration why the need to change it up? I?d rather buy another handgun if I wanted to switch between a carry gun and range gun.
          I’d way rather be able to switch stuff around in CA. In a free state that feature doesn’t really make sense. But in CA I got a few “dead” guns due to the laws. I got three small guns that are only for ccw. I can get only two on my ccw permit, so one small and one medium gun on mine. So I got two “dead” small guns that I have no joy in shooting at the range. Wish I could tweak them to more useable range toys but they aren’t modular.
          Last edited by deckhandmike; 03-02-2023, 11:04 PM.

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          • #6
            Oldmandan
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 2721

            I got one during SSE, so I didn't pay the crazy high prices out there. I wouldn't pay those prices...

            It has become my preferred go-to polymer pistol. I also prefer it to my PPQ, which does have a better trigger.

            I have several slides and grips for it, but I don't switch it out. It stays with a 4" 9mm slide & W/C grip. I used to carry it as a sub-compact, but eventually swapped to a $500 gun to fit that role.

            Anyways, different strokes for different folks...
            "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them" - Richard Henry Lee

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            • #7
              saudadeii
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 3422

              Originally posted by mk2dave
              It seems like everyone is all excited by the offering, but I just don't get it. I tried to use the Sig design studio thingy to pique my interest, but it doesn't work so well.
              It's OK, not everyone's a fan. Not everyone "get's it".

              Originally posted by mk2dave
              The reviews I've read are positive, but not stellar. I know you can change stuff... but once you've made what you wanted, do you really want to change it? If you wanted a 9mm for carry and a 45 for a range toy, it would cost you $1400-1500. Or the price of 2 Glocks.
              Glock offers some level of modularity by allowing to swap slides/barrels around. You should ask them why they do that. Of course, we're limited to Gen 3 Glocks. Try the same with a Gen 4 or Gen 5.

              Originally posted by mk2dave
              This seems like a solution in search of a problem. This is going to seem far fetched... If we lived somewhere you could only have a limited number of pistols, then I'd get the point of the 320. But we don't. Yet.
              HELLO???? Can you spell R-O-S-T-E-R?
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              • #8
                Nick3
                Member
                • Aug 2021
                • 135

                It seems like the closest thing to an AR in the pistol world: Military adoption and high modularity. So hopefully moving forward parts and servicing becomes ubiquitous.

                Plus the idea of piecing together several guns just from stuff bought online and then swapping FCUs is appealing. In practice who knows if this is worthwhile or more of a PITA.

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                • #9
                  sigstroker
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 19323

                  Once you have a 320, there's no off-roster premium to building a match or race gun, and it's even a little cheaper. Some people carry the 320 Compact, which makes it a true multi-function gun for them.

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                  • #10
                    Vagabond
                    Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 457

                    I have a few of them and have slides and calibers of all sizes from subcompact to full, 9mm and .40 s&w, and a few slides with red dots and some without. It means depending what I want to shoot that day I can change things up at less cost (just swap the slide). I got them years ago so cost was MUCH less than now.

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                    • #11
                      mk2dave
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2021
                      • 765

                      Originally posted by saudadeii
                      HELLO???? Can you spell R-O-S-T-E-R?
                      You do know the P320 isnt on the roster, right? Maybe it was, IDK, but it isnt anymore.

                      I get the modularity aspect, although that seems to be more advantageous if you dont know what you want.

                      Does the 320 make a good race gun? I've read it suffices, but there are better options. This is best argument I see right now. "Train with what you carry" kinduv a thing. You'd probably use different components, but the grip angles and sight lines should be the same.

                      The 320 just might not be for me. It's a heavy loss, but I think I'll be okay. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I was missing.

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                      • #12
                        saudadeii
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 3422

                        You said: " If we lived somewhere you could only have a limited number of pistols, then I'd get the point of the 320. But we don't. Yet."

                        I guess I don't know what you meant by that. The 320 was never on the roster. I bought mine during the final days (more like daze) of SSE. Being able to change size, caliber, grips modules, optics, no optics without paying Marketplace prices and no DROS, is why I jumped on board.
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                        • #13
                          naz
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2020
                          • 3107

                          Originally posted by mk2dave
                          You do know the P320 isnt on the roster, right? Maybe it was, IDK, but it isnt anymore.

                          I get the modularity aspect, although that seems to be more advantageous if you dont know what you want.

                          Does the 320 make a good race gun? I've read it suffices, but there are better options. This is best argument I see right now. "Train with what you carry" kinduv a thing. You'd probably use different components, but the grip angles and sight lines should be the same.

                          The 320 just might not be for me. It's a heavy loss, but I think I'll be okay. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I was missing.
                          2A zone and Franklin armory have just put a version of it on the roster for us. I think that?s part of the excitement.

                          Tbh if you don?t like it and you are happy with the on roster choices, that?s great. Saves you a lot of money and time trying to source off rosters

                          I used mine for around 30k rounds last year and like it a lot fwiw.

                          Regarding comparing it with ?race guns? I think the context matters a lot. It?s not a great ?race gun? compared to a custom 2011 but looking at the divisions it?s used to compete in, it?s a solid choice

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                          • #14
                            mk2dave
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2021
                            • 765

                            Originally posted by saudadeii
                            You said: " If we lived somewhere you could only have a limited number of pistols, then I'd get the point of the 320. But we don't. Yet."

                            I guess I don't know what you meant by that. The 320 was never on the roster. I bought mine during the final days (more like daze) of SSE. Being able to change size, caliber, grips modules, optics, no optics without paying Marketplace prices and no DROS, is why I jumped on board.
                            If we could only have "x" number of firearms, the 320 would let you have different capabilities under one serialized firearm. Under these circumstances, I see the attraction.

                            I agree with the FA CA320 heling to drum up the excitement.

                            I'm not trying to poopoo the Sig. I hope it doesn't come off I was doing that. It obviously works for the other people, and that is super. I dont feel the need, and that is okay too.

                            There was a fair amount of energy behind it, and after some research, I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

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                            • #15
                              Gryff
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              • May 2006
                              • 12686

                              Originally posted by mk2dave
                              It seems like everyone is all excited by the offering, but I just don't get it
                              The original point was that you could change the gun to suit your need for the day.

                              Buy a 320 for $550
                              Want a full-size .45acp for home defense...$300 (no FFL)
                              Want a sub-compact .357 Sig for CCW...$300 (no FFL)
                              Mid-size 9mm for hiking...$300 (no FFL)

                              It made sense a) if the gun is sub-$600, b) before Sig jacked the price of the conversion kit up 33%, and c) when Sig actually made all those conversion kits.

                              I like my P320. Don't love it, but a do like it. Started life as a full-size 9mm as one of the last SSE purchases I made. Currently resides in an X5 Legion kit with a red dot.

                              Not happy with it because Sig lied about their promise to offer the Gen1 guns a .45acp conversion. As I mentioned, they skyrockted the price of the conversions to $400 a month after I bought mine. They discontinued the sub-compact option because the P365 sold so well. And then they made all these glorious caliber/size possibilites impossible by basically having zero conversion kits available. And as a final (for the moment) "**** you," they release the P322 in .22LR, but it has nothing to do with the P320 family. For a brief moment, I thought Sig gave a **** about their existing customers by releasing a .22 option for the P320 conversion family. Fortunately, my delusion didn't last long.

                              I applaud the california companies that have found the way to make them available through creative construction. My enthusiasm for those offerings is definitely diminished, though, by the fact that they are $300-400 more than they are worth.

                              The P320 is a great sub-$600 gun. I cannot figure out a reason why I would ever want to pay more for one than that, though.
                              Last edited by Gryff; 03-03-2023, 5:05 PM.
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