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  • Vinnie Boombatz
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2020
    • 3036

    S&W Shield...Slide not locking back on empty mag

    Bought a Shield a while ago, ran a two ro three mags of hollow points through it to make sure they would cycle and put it back in the safe. Dont' recall the issue happening with the JHP's.

    Gun has been cleaned and oiled, and dry-fired a little bit. Went to the range today and the slide would not lock back on an empty mag except for one mag. Tried three different types of ammo just to see if it was the ammo (all factory ammo; American Eagle 115gr, S&B 124gr, and Blazer Brass 124gr). I have 8 mags for the firearm, four 7-rounders and four 8-rounders. All are OEM/factory S&W Shield magazines and the Shield itself is 100% stock aside from the sights. No mods, no changes, nothing done to it aside from cleaning it, shooting, cleaning it, putting it away, oiling it and shooting it today.

    If I put an empty mag into an empty gun and each the slide it locks back. I also have no problem manually locking the slide back.

    The recoil spring does feel pretty heavy in the Shield. Aside from this issue with the slide not locking back after emptying a mag while shooting, I ahve had zero issues with the it. It shoots surprisingly well for such a small firearm and I really like it.

    Wondering if the magazines need to be broken in, but couldn't one argue that when brand-new the springs are at their strongest they'll ever be, so the slide locking back should always happen? Going to try taking the magazines apart and cleaning them as well to see what happens.

    Any advice or suggestions are appreciated.
    Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 01-22-2023, 12:32 PM.
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    Elucidus
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 717

    Any chance you're rubbing the slide release and preventing slide lock? I've had this happen to me with some guns.

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    • #3
      Vinnie Boombatz
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2020
      • 3036

      Originally posted by Elucidus
      Any chance you're rubbing the slide release and preventing slide lock? I've had this happen to me with some guns.
      This is a very good point, and I've done this before on larger handguns by accident. For such a small handgun I bet it's the cause. I'll be more aware of this next time I go to the range.
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        xXRifleManXx
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        • Jun 2011
        • 1194

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          ABR
          Senior Member
          • May 2015
          • 1167

          Originally posted by Elucidus
          Any chance you're rubbing the slide release and preventing slide lock? I've had this happen to me with some guns.
          This.

          I do this with my p365 from time to time. When I pay attention it locks back every time.
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          • #6
            gun toting monkeyboy
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2008
            • 6820

            I know you said you oiled it. But WHEN did you oil it? Before you put it away long term? Or before you fired it this time? You have eliminated the magazines and the ammunition by using multiple examples of each. That leave the issue as being the gun itself. If you haven't cleaned and oiled it since you put it away some time ago, I would do that first and foremost. Even a little friction from the gun being a bit dry could be enough to cause this kind of malfunction. Best case scenario, it fixes the issue. Worst case, you eliminate that is being the cause of the issue, AND now you have a clean gun.

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              Vinnie Boombatz
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2020
              • 3036

              Originally posted by gun toting monkeyboy
              I know you said you oiled it. But WHEN did you oil it? Before you put it away long term? Or before you fired it this time? You have eliminated the magazines and the ammunition by using multiple examples of each. That leave the issue as being the gun itself. If you haven't cleaned and oiled it since you put it away some time ago, I would do that first and foremost. Even a little friction from the gun being a bit dry could be enough to cause this kind of malfunction. Best case scenario, it fixes the issue. Worst case, you eliminate that is being the cause of the issue, AND now you have a clean gun.

              -Mb
              Gun was oiled before I went to the range. I'm going with putting thumb on the slide lock inadvertently. I'm pretty sure this is what's going on. None of my firearms are ever dry. They get cleaned and oiled once I get home, and if they need it, oiled before I go to the range that morning.

              All my handguns are always clean and oiled. I'm somewhat anal about that.
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                gun toting monkeyboy
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2008
                • 6820

                Originally posted by Vinnie Boombatz

                All my handguns are always clean and oiled. I'm somewhat anal about that.
                Perhaps leaving the anal part out of your cleaning routine might improve the function? Just a thought.

                Also, yeah, I can see having problems with your grip and nudging the slide catch with your thumb. The catch is tiny and doesn't take a great deal of pressure to move it up just enough to screw things up. I carried a Gen 1 Shield for years, and learned to make sure of my thumb placement. Glad you got it fixed. They are good guns.

                -Mb
                Originally posted by aplinker
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                • #9
                  Vinnie Boombatz
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 3036

                  Update:

                  Definitely was my grip causing the slide to not lock back. Seems like the slightest touch/pressure from my thumb will keep it from locking back. Been flagging my thumb on on firing hand during the last two range trips and slide has locked back every time.
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                    TrailerparkTrash
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 4249

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                    • #11
                      Vinnie Boombatz
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 3036

                      Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 01-31-2023, 2:29 PM.
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                      • #12
                        eaglemike
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3938

                        Glad you figured it out.
                        Shield has always been plenty accurate for what it is IMHO. They are pretty surprising. A little consistent practice and center hits will be easy peasy.
                        There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                        It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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