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  • VegasND
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2007
    • 8621

    S&W Model 10 Can I use +P

    Today I picked up this Model 10-5, serial # D8376XX.

    In the past I have been told that any Model 10 with a model number stamped on the frame is okay with +P. Someone today told me that Smith says to only use +P in Model 10s made after 1977. I don't know when this one was made; does anybody here know enough about S&W revolvers to help me with this?
    People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
    --River Tam
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    coop44
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 1445

    good old gun, pinned barrel, nice. I have always liked the model 10's. Don't hesitate using +P loads occasionally. But why would you? There are plenty of defensive loads that aren't +P. All you are doing is making more noise and burning a lot of powder outside the barrel. Being hit with a big ol' slow moving lead bullet ain't no picnic. The 38 still has enough energy to do the job it was designed for, contrary to what a lot of folks will say. "practice with what you carry" is a good rule.
    "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws" From Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand

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    • #3
      VegasND
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2007
      • 8621

      Originally posted by coop44
      good old gun, pinned barrel, nice. I have always liked the model 10's. Don't hesitate using +P loads occasionally. But why would you? There are plenty of defensive loads that aren't +P. All you are doing is making more noise and burning a lot of powder outside the barrel. Being hit with a big ol' slow moving lead bullet ain't no picnic. The 38 still has enough energy to do the job it was designed for, contrary to what a lot of folks will say. "practice with what you carry" is a good rule.
      I picked this up fairly inexpensively just to have it, I'll not be carrying it. I'll just take it out and shoot it from time to time. Ammo is currently hard to find and I have a supply of +P. A web search turned up conflicting opinions so I thought maybe somebody here could steer me to some better information.
      People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
      --River Tam

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      • #4
        Khram
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 855

        Yes, an mod 10-5 can stand a moderate amount of +p ammunition. I'd keep +P+_ out of it though.

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        • #5
          Jonathan Doe

          I have used Winchester +P+ 110 grain loads in my model 15, which is the same frame as model 10.

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          • #6
            scr83jp
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 678

            If you reload 38spec you won't need +p ammo you can get good performance with standard loads.I load for my S&W Mod 19 357 mag using mainly 38 spec ammo with 148gr hbwc or bbwc.I only use factory ammo when I carry it for protection.

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            • #7
              JBird33
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 559

              I have one and I don't.

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              • #8
                leitung
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 2897

                Thats a beautiful smith you got there.. I would personally go with a non +p load, but thats a personal opinion. I am pretty sure it could handle it.
                Former "Subject" of the People's Republic of California in "exile" in Washington State.

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                • #9
                  1JimMarch
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1803

                  It can take modest amounts of +P. The +P that will be mildest on the gun will be the plain lead hollowpoints, 158gr by either Winchester or Remington. Ballistics are almost identical, the Remmie lead is a tad softer. Both should expand just fine out of that barrel length, slight preference for the Remmie. The Winchester variant should be avoided in snubs.

                  For standard pressure options, see my post here:



                  There are very few worthwhile 38Spl standard pressure expanding loads. I listed all the ones I would trust my butt to there.

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                  • #10
                    VegasND
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 8621

                    Thanks for the replies.

                    If pretty much everyone recommends only an occasional +P, I guess I'll stick to standard loads. I traded for 2-100 round boxes of the Winchester white box 130 grain target and range ammo, so I'll shoot that for now.

                    Was this revolver sighted in for the old 158 grain load? If so, maybe that's what I should look for.
                    People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
                    --River Tam

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                    • #11
                      1JimMarch
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1803

                      >>Was this revolver sighted in for the old 158 grain load? If so, maybe that's what I should look for.<<

                      Probably. The 158gr +P lead hollowpoints from Winchester and esp. Remmie work well. Buffbore's standard pressure 158 will work about as well as those while being milder on the gun (less peak energy but a longer power pulse to drive the bullet just as fast), while their +P variant is hands-down THE most potent 38Spl defense ammo available. It will beat most 9mm defensive loads and send them running home to mama, esp. from that barrel length...you'll top 400ft/lbs energy.

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