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  • SeanCasey
    Now in AZ
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Mar 2009
    • 1562

    Broken S&W revolver

    My friend and I were out shooting in BLM today and he was shooting his S&W revolver. Was shooting .38 special, mostly reloads. He fired about 19 rounds and then.... BOOM:

    (He was having ammo problems as the mil-surp he was shooting with him M1 Garand was splitting as well.)

    All of my stuff worked flawlessly and no one was injured in his ammo follies, but watching this happen was not cool at all.



    Last edited by SeanCasey; 07-21-2009, 9:54 PM.
    -Sean Casey
  • #2
    Oldnoob
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 2829

    Holly #%#@, I'm glad no one was hurt but damn, where you buddy got his reload from?
    Taiwan born, Chinese descent, red white and freaking blue America citizen.

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    • #3
      SeanCasey
      Now in AZ
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Mar 2009
      • 1562

      His garage.
      -Sean Casey

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      • #4
        ScottB
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 1431

        Isn't that kind of an unusual break for a split case? I would have expected the cylinder or top strap to fail. Was the barrel clear?

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        • #5
          SeanCasey
          Now in AZ
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Mar 2009
          • 1562

          That is what we thought too. The cylinder appears perfect, just the failed barrel. He is going to get it inspected by a gun smith before reparing it. Definately was not cool seeing the barrel land 8ft infront of him and that is a fairly heavy barrel.
          -Sean Casey

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          • #6
            Mr. Beretta
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2005
            • 6614

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            • #7
              trashman
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 3823

              That's a crush-fit barrel; possible that it was over-tightened at the factory.

              --Neill
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              • #8
                qbi2001
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 263

                Holy crap, time to change reload formula.

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                • #9
                  G-Man WC
                  In Memoriam
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 10991

                  Send it back to S/W. That does not look right. -g
                  If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
                  -Samuel Adams

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                  • #10
                    BigRich
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 788

                    It is pretty certain that this was not caused by the reloads. That would evidence by a bulged barrel, bent top strap or blown cylinder (or all of the above together). I would put my money on a factory defect. Call S&W customer service and talk to them about it. They might balk because reloads were used but it sure looks like the barrel was either defective steel or over torqued. Show them the pictures.
                    No one arrives in Hell surprised. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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                    • #11
                      Acorn556
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 2107

                      IDK....Smith might not honor it since it's reloads but its worth a shot. less than having a smith do it.

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                      • #12
                        ponderosa
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 1192

                        Man, 686 with 8 3/8 barrel.... shame. I had one of those, w/ the hogue grips even, but sold it long ago to fund college. Idiotic move for sure...

                        Good luck with S&W, hopefully they'll take a look at it.

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                        • #13
                          ojisan
                          Agent 86
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 11763

                          Nice snubby.
                          Always fun to make them yourself.


                          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
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                          • #14
                            forgiven
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2008
                            • 5214

                            Originally posted by ScottB
                            Personally I wouldn't mention reloads, at least not right off the bat. Call me morally defective, but if you want anything from S&W besides a polite "not our fault", that's a conversation stopper right there. If its a manufacturing defect, chances are they have seen it before.

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                            • #15
                              dfletcher
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14787

                              I think so long as you go with "not shooting reloads" that you should call S & W and tell them what happened, they should pay the shipping to & from. Lousy reloads bulge cylinders and unhinge topstraps, they don't lop off barrels. It may be that the split case is just a coincidence?

                              I'll go with whoever said the barrel was overtorqued, although if the gun was severely out of time I suppose that could eventually cause this problem - but to be so out of time as to cause this to happen I think you would have spent the last several hundred rounds being spit on by lead and copper and the forcing cone would be a mess.

                              Send the barrel with the gun Smith will be able to determine what happened from the fracture.

                              I think Smith also made 686 barrels of the two piece design (on purpose, not like yours ) and they are not liked from what I read. So I think it would be important for you to tell Smith you want the same type barrel on your gun as originally purchased.

                              I would definitely let Smith handle it from start to finish, they have very good customer service - just don't give them the opportunity to assign blame to anyone else by speaking of reloads or having another fellow work on it.
                              Last edited by dfletcher; 07-23-2009, 5:36 PM.
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