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  • natasha69
    Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 342

    Private Party Transfer question

    I've never done a PPT before, so I thought I'd ask here what the best practice to do it is...
    1. meet the other party in person
    2. check handguns, they look good
    3. go to FFL, fill out PPT form, along with DROS (pay the $10/handgun, plus $35 DROS)
    4. wait 10 days, get no phone call
    5. pick up handguns
    6. done deal.

    • question, where should the paying the other party be in that order?
    • lets say worst case these are stolen handguns, should you pay after the 10 days is up, or is the $$ held until everything clears? would DROS pick up that the handguns are stolen?
    • do you have to pay sales tax on the transaction?
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    ke6guj
    Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    most people pay for the handgun before the PPT DROS is started. I personally would not do a PPT on a firearn I owned until after I was paid.

    If the handguns were stolen, then the buyer is out-of-luck unless he can get the seller to give him back the money. I have heard that the serial number is checked during DROS, so it might/should get picked up if it is hot.

    No sales tax due on the purchase of the handgun if buying from a private party.
    Jack



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    • #3
      Oldnoob
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 2826

      PPT is a transfer, all the paying between parties have to be done outside of gun shop.

      Gun shop can ONLY charge up to $35 ($25 for DROS and up to $10 for whatever FFL wish to charge)per firearm. (I have hear some FFL will charge only one DROS for multiple long guns but I have never PPT a long gun so I'm not sure.)

      Gun shop have no right to learn how much if any money is transferred between two parties. Therefore, no sale tax involve.

      If the gun turn out to be stolen, most likely buying party will take the hit. There really isn't a for sure way to get your money back. But FFL SHOULD have both parties ID on file, the rest are up to law enforcers.
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      • #4
        MiguelS
        Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 486

        Don't forget your gunlock.

        Just get one and keep the reciept, IN CASE the FFL asks for one. You can either keep it or return it to the store later.

        As for stolen gun, if you are buying it from a user here and they have iTrader feedback already, I would think you are safe on that issue. But as always, BUYER BEWARE.
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        • #5
          Shane916
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2006
          • 5004

          Each handgun will have to be done on a separate DROS.

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          • #6
            Acorn556
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 2107

            If I'm buying a gun FTF from a guy I'm not paying him until it comes back clean. I'm not going to hand a guy a dollar if I think its stolen. I might even ask for a copy of his DL while the guy runs the information so I have it in case I need to track him down later if the police show up at my door looking for a gun.

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            • #7
              ke6guj
              Moderator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Nov 2003
              • 23725

              you might have a hard time finding a private party seller with that viewpoint.
              Jack



              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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