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  • JTROKS
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2007
    • 13093

    Do You Agree?



    Canik made it, but no Glock.
    The wise man said just find your place
    In the eye of the storm
    Seek the roses along the way
    Just beware of the thorns...
    K. Meine
  • #2
    Mayor McRifle
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2013
    • 7796

    Originally posted by JTROKS
    Canik made it, but no Glock.
    It said accurate, not cheap.
    Anchors Aweigh

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    • #3
      Romeo_alpha01
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2017
      • 2030

      No Laugo Alien? No custom 2011s? No HK SP5?

      Weak

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      • #4
        G-forceJunkie
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2010
        • 6526

        Define accurate. If were testing the firearms accuracy, you test it without human influence in a Random Rest.
        A better term for this list is probably "what handguns do people find easy to shoot accurately."

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        • #5
          dC0m
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2021
          • 534

          I've shot two of the 5 - as an owner of the TP9SFX - it is definitely accurate straight out of the box. I've had new shooters give it a gun and everyone has a surprised look on their face when they land all of their shots.

          CZ 75; definitely a reason why militaries around the world use it.
          FS: Canik TP9SFX - SF Bay Area - (No Ship)


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          • #6
            The Gleam
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 13864

            Are these only current production guns? If not, then I don't agree. I would put the Walther P88 and the HK P7 series on there in lieue of one or two of those.

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            Originally posted by Librarian
            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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            • #7
              JTROKS
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2007
              • 13093

              Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
              It said accurate, not cheap.
              The only OEM Glock 9mm I have is my G43X. Although accurate enough for its purpose I wouldn’t call upon it for Bullseye matches.


              Originally posted by Romeo_alpha01
              No Laugo Alien? No custom 2011s? No HK SP5?

              Weak
              The Wilson EDC is a modern take on a 1911


              Originally posted by G-forceJunkie
              Define accurate. If were testing the firearms accuracy, you test it without human influence in a Random Rest.
              A better term for this list is probably "what handguns do people find easy to shoot accurately."
              Accurate would be 2” groups at 25 yards fired from Ransom Rest, maybe consistent headshot capable at 25 yards offhand freestyle. My CZ Shadow 2, Beretta 92, Springfield LT and RO, Sig P320 X5 in 9mm can do that.
              Last edited by JTROKS; 09-12-2022, 12:48 AM.
              The wise man said just find your place
              In the eye of the storm
              Seek the roses along the way
              Just beware of the thorns...
              K. Meine

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              • #8
                eaglemike
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2008
                • 4001

                Don't agree. A Sig 226 X5 Competition will definitely outshoot a SP01. I've owned both, and I don't think it's close. Other X5 version are likely close/as good as the X5 I had, but no personal experience.
                The SP01 is a great gun for a run of the mill and affordable gun though.
                There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                • #9
                  SirRicky85
                  Member
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 336

                  SP-01? That's low tier for CZ. They didn't even mention the Shadow or TS. The king of the hill for CZ is Czechmate. WC compact... eh
                  Browning Buck Mark Practical URX
                  Glock 19 Gen 3, Smith & Wesson 686 Plus
                  Springfield Armory 1911 Loaded Target
                  CZ Czechmate
                  Thompson Center T/CR22
                  CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 Carbine
                  Colt LE6920CMPS-B, Franklin Armory CA7
                  Arsenal SAM7R-61
                  Masterpiece Arms 308BA
                  Mossberg 500 Tactical

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                  • #10
                    Nvberinger
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2018
                    • 729

                    Yes, I shot 4 out of 5. The list is fairly accurate. I would rank SIG 210 as highly accurate.

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                    • #11
                      JTROKS
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 13093

                      Originally posted by eaglemike
                      Don't agree. A Sig 226 X5 Competition will definitely outshoot a SP01. I've owned both, and I don't think it's close. Other X5 version are likely close/as good as the X5 I had, but no personal experience.
                      The SP01 is a great gun for a run of the mill and affordable gun though.
                      The wise man said just find your place
                      In the eye of the storm
                      Seek the roses along the way
                      Just beware of the thorns...
                      K. Meine

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                      • #12
                        Scotty
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 2141

                        What about all the 9mm built for the Bianchi Cup? Bruce Gray built guns that shot 2 in groups at 50 yards as the standard if you want to make it at the top.

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                        • #13
                          AFTII
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 1617

                          Originally posted by eaglemike
                          Don't agree. A Sig 226 X5 Competition will definitely outshoot a SP01. I've owned both, and I don't think it's close. Other X5 version are likely close/as good as the X5 I had, but no personal experience.
                          The SP01 is a great gun for a run of the mill and affordable gun though.
                          My friend has an X5 Short and Sweet, and it is the most accurate 9mm I've ever shot. I had an X5 Tactical, IIRC, in 40 and it was a tack driver.

                          I have an Sig P210 American Target, i.e., the P210 in the picture, and its accuracy is so so bordering on meh. I also have a CZC Shadow 2 and a Shadow 2 Orange. While better than the P210A Target, neither will hold a candle to the X5's. So, yea. I agree. Any list that doesn't include a German Custom shop X5 or X6 is incomplete at best.
                          Last edited by AFTII; 09-12-2022, 8:38 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Brother_Hesekiel
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 771

                            That's a chart made for newbees who want to go and buy their first 9mm.

                            Every CZ Checkmate, 2011 and custom 1911 will outshoot every single of those listed guns.

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                            • #15
                              Capybara
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 15765

                              I wouldn't believe any of it simply based on awful font choice.
                              NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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