Bren 10!

[DrewN]

The Delta Elite is too weak or too small. Lots of broken Delta Elites is what prompted them (SAAMI?) to lower the power from the original 10mm. I still have a few rounds of the original 10mm ammo when they were the only ones making it. I bought it because a friend of mine bought a Delta Elite and I wanted to shoot it. I could tell after the first shot that it was too much for a gun designed for .45 ACP.

I mean, I'd be mildly amused to watch some youngsters find out first hand why folks carried revolvers as long as they did. I think I bought at least one of every "hot" pistol back in the day and the Bren and Delta were far from the only ones that barely worked.

[sigstroker]

Oops, I forgot to say it was Norma 10mm I have.

True, the difference carries over to reloading too. Revolver reloaders look for the most power they can get. Autoloader reloaders look for a load that function, usually only looking to meet power factor at most.

[beetle]

It almost looks like a CZ 75. Does anybody else see it?

that's because jeff cooper was fond of the CZ 75 (before it became widely available in the states). his main beef with the CZ was that it was 9mm while cooper wanted the biggest caliber possible. The name "Bren Ten" is actually paying tribute to CZ in a roundabout way. Bren is an amalgamation of "BRNO" (where the CZ is manufactured) and Enfield coined by the british for their light machine gun. So then name Bren Ten still has a connection to CZ.

[sigstroker]

that's because jeff cooper was fond of the CZ 75 (before it became widely available in the states). his main beef with the CZ was that it was 9mm while cooper wanted the biggest caliber possible. The name "Bren Ten" is actually paying tribute to CZ in a roundabout way. Bren is an amalgamation of "BRNO" (where the CZ is manufactured) and Enfield coined by the british for their light machine gun. So then name Bren Ten still has a connection to CZ.

That's where I first learned about the CZ-75, in one of his articles. Then, a couple years later, one appeared in my local pawn shop/gun store. Probably from a soldier assigned to a Euro post, where someone from behind the Iron Curtain snuck it out.

[cal3gunner]

I shot a Bren 10, it only had one mag and it would eject during recoil randomly. Bang bang, pick up mag, bang bang.
If Vltor ever makes one I'll buy it, but I think they have given up on the project.

[Oceanbob]

I miss Jeff Cooper. He made so much common sense.

[sigstroker]

I shot a Bren 10, it only had one mag and it would eject during recoil randomly. Bang bang, pick up mag, bang bang.
If Vltor ever makes one I'll buy it, but I think they have given up on the project.

Sounds like you were using the wrong shooting stance.

[Turbinator]

Sounds like you were using the wrong shooting stance.

Nice, tea cupping...

I like the SIG225, wish I picked one up when they were going for cheap! Made in W. Germany, good stuff.

Turby

[anelson]

I got the Bren Ten from RMB. It's a nice.

I put up https://brenten.org to try and consolidate info for Bren Ten since it's starting to get scattered around and not everything is in the typical wiki pages.

[Romeo_alpha01]

^^^Damn you must have really wanted it! I did a PPT there a few weeks ago and the price made my chest hurt, lol. Congrats!

[Sutcliffe]

Mine never ran worth a damn, I gotta say.

If not for the TV show, I doubt ANYONE would remember that gun.

[BigPimping]

Gaston has everything you will ever need.

[p7m8jg]

Sonny Crockett. Nice!

[jyo]

I was managing a very high volume gun store when the Bren 10 first surfaced---or tried to surface. The store was selling lots of guns and was the center of gun stuff in our area. We were constantly seeing sneak previews of all sorts of interesting guns bought to us be designers and new manufacturers . One of these was the Bren 10---the gun magazines were printing all sorts of glowing reviews about a pistol that basically didn't truly exist in any real production form, yet according to the gun press, this was the hottest pistol to come down the road in years! And yes, it looks very much like a CZ-75 on purpose--it was a scaled-up copy of the CZ-75 to handle the new and exciting 10mm cartridge.
I remember seeing one of the first prototypes brought to the store just before the magazines started printing there "wonderful" reviews (!). It was a VERY rough collection of parts---not hardly a production piece by any means---and yet the the phone was ringing off the hook every day from folks demanding Bren 10s and the new hot 10mm ammo...! As the gun moved closer to a production item, we were shown a few pistols that were still very rough and I was not that concerned because I came from a motor racing background before I joined into the firearms business and I'd seen prototype metal before and I figured the production stuff would be much better---and it was---barely---and the first guns were shipped (!) without magazines (!)---something I'd never seen before, but, no worries---the magazines were on the way---except they weren't! I saw a few early production pistols delivered and was not impressed, but the demand was strong and everybody bought into the whole Jeff Cooper story: "Great gun---wonderful new and powerful 10mm cartridge!"
Yeah the production guns improved in quality noticeably, but still no magazines and guns were shipping to customers because the makers needed the cash flow to keep their heads above water---and of course, we know how the story ended ---some magazines showed up WAY down the road---many production guns were rough and never functioned well... An amazing amount of press that generated much cash investment needed by the makers way, WAY before any guns could be produced---now they're collector items, and some of them might even run---many won't...

[sigstroker]

I doubt the tv show had much to do with it. They never talked about the gun. As guns go, Tubbs' Wilson Witness was a lot more interesting.