Leupold Deltapoint micro - any users?

[Rcjackrabbit]

Is anyone using the Leupold Deltapoint micro red dot? What do you think of it?

[axhoaxho]

I have a Leupold Delta Point Micro.... It is a high-quality built-like-a-tank red dot. It could survive a drop from the helicopter, and kept zero (see video below.)

I also liked the idea that I could install a red dot on a Glock without modifying the slide (e.g. RMR cut.) It also allowed me to use my existing holsters.

On the Cons side, it has one minor thing that bugs me..... when I installed it on my Glock, I needed to remove the battery-cover in order to remove the Glock slide for field-cleaning (not that I needed to do it often, so it was not really a big deal.) If I ever needed to disassemble my Glock slide for detailed-cleaning, I would need to remove the Delta Point Micro from my Glock, and re-zeroed it when I put it back on (I almost never did a detailed-cleaning on my Glock, so again, not really a big deal.)

Overall, I would recommend it... if folks want a red dot on a Glock without modifying the slide.

https://youtu.be/8-LPAgsYpPs

[Rcjackrabbit]

Thanks. I have a couple questions:

Is it as fast as irons up close?

Do you ever have a hard time finding the dot?

Does it improve your accuracy?

[axhoaxho]

Thanks. I have a couple questions:

Is it as fast as irons up close?

Do you ever have a hard time finding the dot?

Does it improve your accuracy?

The short answer is -- Yes, no, and yes.

However, it does need to have some practices and get used to it. Below is a good video to demonstrate lining-up the sight-picture using the Delta Point Micro.

I am a fan of the Trijicon RMR, but it would need a RMR-cut slide. For the Delta Point Micro, it could be installed on an existing pistol (Glock in my case) without modifying/replacing the slide -- which I think is one of its selling points.

https://youtu.be/6K_zQautu2o

[Rcjackrabbit]

Thanks Ax.

[Rcjackrabbit]

Another thought ... I'm curious why the Deltapoint Micro is not more popular?

It is easier to mount - no modifications
It is closer to the bore - more natural aim and better ballistics
It is a closed emitter / more reliable

I wonder if it is because it was second to the party? The RMRs got there first.

Both seem to have an equal challenge in finding the dot.

[k1dude]

Another thought ... I'm curious why the Deltapoint Micro is not more popular?

It is easier to mount - no modifications
It is closer to the bore - more natural aim and better ballistics
It is a closed emitter / more reliable

I wonder if it is because it was second to the party? The RMRs got there first.

Both seem to have an equal challenge in finding the dot.

Because it's fugly and interferes with cleaning the gun. There's also no way to use iron sights with it. So if your battery craps out, you're hosed.

It only costs a bit more to buy an optics cut slide and mount a red dot with a much bigger window. It doesn't interefere with cleaning and you still have backup iron sights. Quickly swap back to your original slide if you want. Enclosed emitter models are plenty.

[rodralig]

Because it's fugly and interferes with cleaning the gun. There's also no way to use iron sights with it. So if your battery craps out, you're hosed.

It only costs a bit more to buy an optics cut slide and mount a red dot with a much bigger window. It doesn't interefere with cleaning and you still have backup iron sights. Quickly swap back to your original slide if you want. Enclosed emitter models are plenty.

I find the interfacing mount flimsy. They need to go back to the drawing board.

And it breaks in less than 10-rds…Yeah, I know mine could be a dud - but then again, if it was THAT scenario (would I be screwed)

Interesting experiment while it lasted…





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[Rcjackrabbit]

Wow, Rod. It broke in 10 rounds?

After more thought, I don’t think I want any optic on my gun. I recently took a handgun class. There were several cops with dots on their guns. They were of the opinion a dot is a “must” for a handgun. I think their role for a handgun is different than mine:

Cop

Handgun is often an offensive weapon
Handgun many times is up and ready as they approach threat
25 yard shots not uncommon

Citizen CCW self defender

Draws from concealment
Threat 0-7 yards
Speed of first hit key

The cops in my class were making incredible shots at 25 yards that few people with irons can duplicate. But, I don’t think the average civilian will be doing this. As a matter of fact, I would be willing to bet there was not one civilian 25 yard self defense shot in the entire year of 2021.

Different roles.

[jon94520]

[rodralig]

Wow, Rod. It broke in 10 rounds?

Well, less than 10-rounds, actually.

I posted on my Instagram and Leupold offered to replace it for free. I simply went through Kenzie's Optics for a refund that I used to get a different RDS.

After more thought, I don’t think I want any optic on my gun.

Cannot be helped in my case - rear sight/front sight is a blur... Unless I have my Rx on with only the left-side lens having the correction.

The cops in my class were making incredible shots at 25 yards that few people with irons can duplicate. But, I don’t think the average civilian will be doing this. As a matter of fact, I would be willing to bet there was not one civilian 25 yard self defense shot in the entire year of 2021.

Better to have "it" and not use it, than need "it" and not have it, ie., a 25-yard shot to an open target can be likened to a precision shot at a shorter range. Take your pick.

My draw to pair at 25-yards with iron sights (if I were using my Rx) - is about 2.5~3.0 sec. 25-yards are really not that incredible... Stock Glocks, for example, are more than sufficient for taking "warning" shots at 100+ yards.

Draws from concealment
Threat 0-7 yards
Speed of first hit key

I don’t disagree.
I have 2 handguns with dots but they are purely range guns.
They can’t be beat for rapid fire accuracy.
I find myself hunting for the dot on the draw, but I haven’t practiced heavily with them so take that with a grain of salt.

My draw to pairs up to 7-yards are similar between my iron sighted and RDS guns. 10-yards and farther - the advantage of RDS becomes apparent.


My carry outside California - autumn/winter months - Glock 19



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[jkcerda]

Well, less than 10-rounds, actually.

I posted on my Instagram and Leupold offered to replace it for free. I simply went through Kenzie's Optics for a refund that I used to get a different RDS.




Cannot be helped in my case - rear sight/front sight is a blur... Unless I have my Rx on with only the left-side lens having the correction.



Better to have "it" and not use it, than need "it" and not have it, ie., a 25-yard shot to an open target can be likened to a precision shot at a shorter range. Take your pick.

My draw to pair at 25-yards with iron sights (if I were using my Rx) - is about 2.5~3.0 sec. 25-yards are really not that incredible... Stock Glocks, for example, are more than sufficient for taking "warning" shots at 100+ yards.






My draw to pairs up to 7-yards are similar between my iron sighted and RDS guns. 10-yards and farther - the advantage of RDS becomes apparent.


My carry outside California - autumn/winter months - Glock 19



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wow, so pass on it?

[sigstroker]

Wow, Rod. It broke in 10 rounds?

After more thought, I don?t think I want any optic on my gun. I recently took a handgun class. There were several cops with dots on their guns. They were of the opinion a dot is a ?must? for a handgun. I think their role for a handgun is different than mine:

Cop

Handgun is often an offensive weapon
Handgun many times is up and ready as they approach threat
25 yard shots not uncommon

Citizen CCW self defender

Draws from concealment
Threat 0-7 yards
Speed of first hit key

The cops in my class were making incredible shots at 25 yards that few people with irons can duplicate. But, I don?t think the average civilian will be doing this. As a matter of fact, I would be willing to bet there was not one civilian 25 yard self defense shot in the entire year of 2021.

Different roles.

Wasn't the guy in the mall at 40 yards?

[jkcerda]

Wasn't the guy in the mall at 40 yards?

about that far.

[DJD100]

Because it's fugly and interferes with cleaning the gun. There's also no way to use iron sights with it. So if your battery craps out, you're hosed.

It only costs a bit more to buy an optics cut slide and mount a red dot with a much bigger window. It doesn't interefere with cleaning and you still have backup iron sights. Quickly swap back to your original slide if you want. Enclosed emitter models are plenty.

Should work as a ghost sight/ring with some practice to learn the sight picture needed, as it's in the same location and sight plane as the original rear sight.

To field strip you just remove the battery which is easy, though to detail strip the slide it needs to come off and be re-zero'd (which is a PITA).

As to reliability, don't know...