What is the difference between grains?

[addiction]

here is a link to a page that I keep bookmarked about self defense ammo and some thoughts on it

http://www.chuckhawks.com/ammo_by_anonymous.htm

[Turbinator]

Hans....bubie! I'm your white knight!

I believe he actually says "boobie" - I saw a movie script that spells it out this way.

Turby

[rtlltj]

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm

147 gr hst 9mm and 180 gr hst .40 all the way.

There are alot of people who are afraid of using 147 gr 9mm because of how bad the outdated 147 gr jhp performed in the past. Any of the premium 147 gr JHP you find nowadays expands very reliably and penetrates further than the lighter bullets. It's the reason why the Winchester Ranger 147 gr T-series and Federal HST 147 gr seem to be the most in demand 9mm premium JHP right now.

[ltspongebob]

yes, heavier bullets will give you harder recoil as well. if you are target shooting under 25 ft, which is probably the effective range of most combat pistols, the flatter trajectory of a lighter bullet wont make a noticeable difference so practice what you are going to use for self/home defense if you can.

I agree with this, however finding 147gr FMJ has been very difficult, if not immpossible. BTW ammunitiongoto.com has a shipment of 9mm 147gr HST in stock...

Sponge

[cal3gunner]

In a perfect world you would buy a box of each different bullet weights and try them to see how they shoot in your glock.

In my Glock 17 I have shot, 115, 121, 124, 125, 130, and 147 gr bullets. The only ones it didn't really like and grouped badly with was the 130gr fmj, but my gun groups well with 130 moly lead bullets.

I use 121 gr Hollow Points made by Zero right now for competition for two reasons. The first is that they group extremely well and shoot great out of my gun. The second is because I can get them.

My self defense load is Winchester Ranger 147gr Hollow Points and Black Hills 115gr +P Gold Dot. I have light, fast and bonded or slow and heavy depending on the situation.


If anyone out there needs some Winchester Ranger Hollow Points, send me a PM. I have an 50 cal ammo can full of it.

[pinwheels]

FWIW, I've run mostly 180 and 165 gr .40SW rounds through my Glock 23, and also some 135 gr Corbon that runs at something like 1340 fps vs. 950-1050 for the heavier bullets. The Corbons have noticeably more muzzle flash and snappier recoil than anything else. Common sense says practice with FMJ ammo that feels the same (i.e., same bullet weight and muzzle velocity) as what you choose for SD.

[Jonathan Doe]

I carry Win 147gr SXT ammo, and primarily shoot the same ammo. I shoot some other ammo also, but I like to shoot duty ammo.

[Fjold]

Heavier bullets penetrate better but in the case of short barreled pistols heavy hollow points may not expand well because of the velocity loss due to the short barrels.

In my carry gun (3", 40 cal) I use the 155 grain hollowpoints to get enough velocity to insure adequate expansion. In my 4", 40 cal I use the 180 grain hollowpoints for more penetration with sufficient expansion.

[jmf_tracy]

FWIW i use 115 grain for training/practice and use 124 P+ for business. honestly it does not matter what you use. shot placement is king.

[9mm+P]

How do I know what grain bullet I want for a Glock 19 9mm?

115grain, 124grain, 147grain

What are the differences?

You want 124 grain. It's the best weight of all 3 grains. 9mm+P Ammo is the best Ammo you can use. NATO-Spec is 124 grain and about 36,250 PSI

[9mm+P]

Heavier bullets penetrate better but in the case of short barreled pistols heavy hollow points may not expand well because of the velocity loss due to the short barrels.

In my carry gun (3", 40 cal) I use the 155 grain hollowpoints to get enough velocity to insure adequate expansion. In my 4", 40 cal I use the 180 grain hollowpoints for more penetration with sufficient expansion.

Heavier Bullets dont penetrate better? a 115 grain 9mm will pass through you and maybe hit the guy behind you. A heavier bullet stick's and expands more, I dont know what they tought you swabbie's in the Navy but the Army has a different take on that, and it only makes sense.

[Fjold]

Heavier Bullets dont penetrate better? a 115 grain 9mm will pass through you and maybe hit the guy behind you. A heavier bullet stick's and expands more, I dont know what they tought you swabbie's in the Navy but the Army has a different take on that, and it only makes sense.

I'm sorry but the Navy required us to make sense when we talked about things. I can tell from your post that you were in the Army.

[rtlltj]

Heavier Bullets dont penetrate better? a 115 grain 9mm will pass through you and maybe hit the guy behind you. A heavier bullet stick's and expands more, I dont know what they tought you swabbie's in the Navy but the Army has a different take on that, and it only makes sense.

Considering you were already banned once and your a new member I would save the immature insults or your not going to last long. This forum isn't a pissing contest and its not welcomed. People around here respect eachother.

[pinwheels]

Hey guys -- Chill!

OP: This whole topic is covered over and over. LOTS of good threads on glocktalk.com in the "Caliber Corner" forum. That said, jmf tracy is right - shot placement is king. Shoot what you can best control.

[Midian]

I believe he actually says "boobie" - I saw a movie script that spells it out this way.

Turby

It's bubie or bubbie, a Jewish term of endearment.