Why are Glocks more expensive used than new?

[slick_711]

are you sure you are comparing 'apples for apples'? for example, i have a bone stock G23, and I have a G23 with a trigger job, night sights, ext mag release and slide release. The bone stock G23 is NIB and worth 550. The other one is 12 years old and worth more..

No it's not?

Using today's average Glock retail price... say $550?

-25% for being used and not having a rail (subjective)
-$15 for needing a new recoil spring (first thing a buyer should do w/ a used Glock)
+$6 for extended mag release
+$8 for extended slide release
+$30 for dead night sights
+$50 for trigger job (guessing. what'd you have done?)

= $491.5

Not a BIG difference, but it's not worth more...

[ro442173]

Throw in a used G19 and I'll take it.

No G19 but I'll throw in an M2 .50 cal cleaning kit.

[nick]

Let me chime in as well. Glocks are great pistols, there's no doubt about that. Well-designed, well-built, accurate, reliable, not too expensive. With all the years of liberal and movie propaganda, they also have a good name recognition, which adds to the desire to by one (or 5)

That being said, demand sets the price. To give you an unrelated example, we buy most cars below MSRP, right? In fact, we bargain to be as close to invoice as we can, or hopefully even go below the invoice price. Not so with Minis. With them, you bargain to get as close to MSRP as you can. The demand outstrips supply, and you pay for it, if you want it.

I bought most of my Glocks slightly used in low $400's, when it was common. However, the spike in demand made those prices hard to find, and why not? You can still patiently wait for a Glock to appear on some forum for $400-something, be the first to jump in, etc., in other words paying the extra time for lower price. Or you can buy it for whatever the going rate is and save yourself the time. You're paying the going rate regardless, only you do it in either time or money. The same goes for the seller. He can list his Glock for sale at the going rate or higher and spend time selling it, or he can set the price lower and sell it right away, without have to court every one of the 20 potential buyers.

Same with ammo, you can stake out your neighborhood Walmart on delivery day, or you can just buy it for more money elsewhere. You pay what it's worth to you. It doesn't mean people are stupid, it only means that they place value on different things. For that matter, doing research also takes time.

When I bought my G35, which was my first ever personally owned handgun, I did enough research to figure out what gun I wanted (that is, which GLOCK I wanted ), and then called the local shops to see which one had it and bought it. I paid about MSRP, maybe $10-15 less, but I had it in my possession in 10 days. It was worth it to me. I spent as little time as calling the stores and doing the DROS on it. I wanted to have my first handgun as soon as possible, and I'm not poor, so $100-150 difference in price wasn't an object.

Now a few Glocks later, I will patiently wait for the good deal. Why not? I already have a go-to handgun, and since I have this hobby, getting a good deal is a part of the hobby.

To each his own.

[ajaffe]

That would make plenty of sense....... if I didn't walk into 4 gun stores in 3 days and see a shelf full of Glocks on each of them, not to mention the 3 or 4 sites running specials on Glocks online.

Btw if you are looking for a Glock in San Diego, try So Cal Guns on Convoy, American Shooting Center, Paul Johnson Company in Escondido, or Turner's San Marcos. All have stock as of right now, and for cheaper than most of the used ones are going for too.

Just had to edit this in: How does being poor or not have anything to do with it? If you are spending more on a standard run of the mill nothing special about it used weapon than its new counterpart, then you are being taken. 100-150 in difference over 3 or 4 times is another Glock. But in the end it is your money, so what you do with it is your choice. Isn't that the beauty of America?

[Bobula]

buy one online and transfer it in.

+1
My 3rd gen glock 22 from gun broker cost me $501 after shipping, paperwork, dros, everything.

[nick]

That would make plenty of sense....... if I didn't walk into 4 gun stores in 3 days and see a shelf full of Glocks on each of them, not to mention the 3 or 4 sites running specials on Glocks online.

This is now, how easy was it to find shelves full of Glocks only a few months ago? Even now, how easy is it to find a G34 or G35 in stock at a local store? And yes, I see lots of Glocks and other semiauto handguns on the shelves these days, as well. Now that the availability has improved, the prices will follow. And I'm still waiting for the influx of the NIB or lightly used guns at very low prices some time down the road, for, as usual, a lot of people bought more than they could afford during the craze

Btw if you are looking for a Glock in San Diego, try So Cal Guns on Convoy, American Shooting Center, Paul Johnson Company in Escondido, or Turner's San Marcos. All have stock as of right now, and for cheaper than most of the used ones are going for too.

Thanks, I'm in L.A. area, and I'm not looking for a Glock. I just chimed in with what I considered a reasonable explanation

Just had to edit this in: How does being poor or not have anything to do with it? If you are spending more on a standard run of the mill nothing special about it used weapon than its new counterpart, then you are being taken. 100-150 in difference over 3 or 4 times is another Glock. But in the end it is your money, so what you do with it is your choice. Isn't that the beauty of America?

Being poor or not has a lot to do it. You may spend a lot of time looking for a good deal, when you have more time than money, or you can consider your time to be worth more than the potential savings. Ideally, you don't waste money even when you have plenty of it, up until the point when you lose more (be it money or time not used for something else) than the money you would've saved.

And yes, having a choice feels pretty good

[nick]

+1
My 3rd gen glock 22 from gun broker cost me $501 after shipping, paperwork, dros, everything.

Try GSSF. Same or lower prices, better availability, especially if you live in Bay Area (the only store in CA that participates in it is in San Jose, alas).

[ajaffe]

This is now, how easy was it to find shelves full of Glocks only a few months ago? Even now, how easy is it to find a G34 or G35 in stock at a local store? And yes, I see lots of Glocks and other semiauto handguns on the shelves these days, as well. Now that the availability has improved, the prices will follow. And I'm still waiting for the influx of the NIB or lightly used guns at very low prices some time down the road, for, as usual, a lot of people bought more than they could afford during the craze

Thanks, I'm in L.A. area, and I'm not looking for a Glock. I just chimed in with what I considered a reasonable explanation

Being poor or not has a lot to do it. You may spend a lot of time looking for a good deal, when you have more time than money, or you can consider your time to be worth more than the potential savings. Ideally, you don't waste money even when you have plenty of it, up until the point when you lose more (be it money or time not used for something else) than the money you would've saved.

And yes, having a choice feels pretty good

Plenty of inventory each and everytime I have gone into the above mentioned shops. The only one that had a rough patch was Turner's as they were dealing with management issues. I had to have made at least one trip a month to each shop since Obama took office.

I was just mentioning the Glock in stock thing to any perspective buyers that may be following this thread.

I see what you are saying with the money though. I have personally never been in a situation where I had a lot of personal wealth so I can not make a non-ignorant comment about it, so I will refrain on it. But yes, time =/= money a lot of the time, and a good amount of situations are better served by spending more now to save time later.
That leads into how I feel about the GSSF. If there was one in the Southern California area I would be more than happy to join them and take advantage of the 1/year. But the fact that I would have to make two trips to San Jose is a big flop for me.

I am personally waiting for the G19RTF or a G17RTF. I might venture into .40 territory later on down the line, I just cannot imagine why though as of right now. If I want to shoot cheaply, I have my .22, if I want to shoot with more oomph, I'll have the 17, if I want to protect the home or shoot with big oomphs, I'll have my Sig 220.

[nick]

I'm trying to have a couple of shops in L.A. area sign up for GSSF. You'd think a business opportunity like this (the more populous part of the state, with lots of money and people, and not a single participating dealer) wouldn't require too much thinking, but I've long since suspected gun stores in CA live i ntheir own world That, or there're some GSSF requirements that make it unfeasible for them to sign up.

You don't have to go to San Jose though. For those living father than 100 miles from a participating FFL, GSSF recommends buying from one of the dealers in KS. Then, of course, there're shipping and FFL transfer charges, but it still comes out cheaper than buying it retail.

I didn't realize those stores in San Diego had much inventory, btw. Here, at best, stores would have a couple of used Glocks and a couple of new ones up until a month ago or so. Turners wouldn't have any, of course.

[ajaffe]

Yeah it has surprised me as well. The big rush is towards ammo and OLLs down here from what I have seen. But then again I do not work in a gun store so my view is very limited.
From what I took off the GSSF website was that it had to go to San Jose as that is the only authorized dealer. So does that mean I can order one from whatever dealer is in their "home" state and have it shipped into my FFL as a normal transfer?

[nick]

I can't find the info online right now, looks like GSSF changed its site. However, when you find their list of participating dealers, there's one with an asterisk next to its name, it's a dealer in KS. That's the one you have to order from if you don't have a participating FFL nearby.

[ajaffe]

Good information. Thanks friend.

[Bobula]

Try GSSF. Same or lower prices, better availability, especially if you live in Bay Area (the only store in CA that participates in it is in San Jose, alas).

Why are you recommending me a place by acronym? Go yea well I get my from RSFAC! Yea figure that out!



I paid 411 for my glock, 30 for shipping and 60 for receiving/dros.
Not many places can touch that for a great condition glock 22 with night sights.

[Mstnpete]

When someone consigns a used Glock at a gun store, whatever the consignee is asking for, the gun store tacks on their commission.
Therefore, the used guns can be more than a brand new one.

[MILLITIAof1]

I got a LNIB glock 30 today for $400, not too bad of a deal.