Glock moving to USA? No more gen3?

[ar15robert]

California's gun market is big but not big enough for anyone to really care if it went away, otherwise the entire industry would be out front with PR and such anytime some anti-gun law was proposed. They all remained silent.

Of all the guns being sold in Ca in total there aren't enough of any one kind, brand or type that makes losing those sales a make it or break it situation for anyone but maybe some small concern. If today no more Glocks could be sold, Glock wouldn't even blink, they could make up those sales by selling T-shirts.

California's gun market is one of easy money and convenience. There are few opportunities to sell new models of pistols so while Gen3s might sell okay, Glock only makes them because the tooling and process to manufacture has been paid for a long time ago IMHO. The list of anyone in the gun business even wanting to sell in California gets shorter everyday.

Yup gun makers are still making money off old guns that rarely sell in the free states But they are probably making more selling modern handguns to the rest of the country or world.

[Oldmandan]

California's gun market is big but not big enough for anyone to really care if it went away, otherwise the entire industry would be out front with PR and such anytime some anti-gun law was proposed. They all remained silent.

Of all the guns being sold in Ca in total there aren't enough of any one kind, brand or type that makes losing those sales a make it or break it situation for anyone but maybe some small concern. If today no more Glocks could be sold, Glock wouldn't even blink, they could make up those sales by selling T-shirts.

California's gun market is one of easy money and convenience. There are few opportunities to sell new models of pistols so while Gen3s might sell okay, Glock only makes them because the tooling and process to manufacture has been paid for a long time ago IMHO. The list of anyone in the gun business even wanting to sell in California gets shorter everyday.

What in the world are you talking about?

There are more gun owners in Ca, than there are people in 23 different states…

Only 10% of the population here owns guns, so the opportunity to sell to new buyers is huge

They are selling models of which the tooling was paid off long ago, meaning higher profit margins…

The Gen3 has had any bugs worked out long ago, meaning warranty work is at a minimum, so again, highly profitable…

In free America, Glocks lack of new product development has led to many competitors. In CA that is not the case, the roster limits their competition, which again leads to higher sales and more profit.

[L-2]

Post 18, that was a great analysis and explanation and I totally agree. Otherwise, we can merely read and hope to see how Austria further-locking-down once again, affects Glock production and shipping. There apparently will be a mandatory vaccination requirement beginning Feb. 1, 2022. A news article said Austria was presently at ~66%, which is higher than the USA's 59% but apparently lower compared to other Euro countries.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/austria-powers-down-public-life-fourth-covid-19-lockdown-begins-2021-11-21/

Good luck Californian calguns.net members. Do consider getting the GSSF "Blue Label" pricing if you might want to buy a Glock in the immediate future as it opens up lower pricing and a source for Glock pistols which you presently wouldn't presently have (unless already Blue Label ok'd).

If you don't already know about GSSF, go here to read more or join:

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[benjamin101677]

[Lady Ruger]

G19's at Sportsman's Warehouse $499.99 and a $50 gift card back.

[bohoki]

The quasi monopoly of access to California semi auto pistol sales is to large to ignore.

Glock will be the last pistol on the roster if this goes on long enough.

there is always hi-point

[SharedShots]

So what?

Only 10% of the population here owns guns, so the opportunity to sell to new buyers is huge

Then the other 90% are going to buy guns, eventually, as gun control in California only gets more restrictive and liberal?I already said that, welcome to the club.Um, yeah, that is a direct result of the above.

In free America, Glocks lack of new product development has led to many competitors. In CA that is not the case, the roster limits their competition, which again leads to higher sales and more profit.

The Roster is good for profits since it limits competition and thus higher sales? That is about a cray thing as I've ever heard.

Using your logic then, the 90% in California who don't own guns are going to buy Glock Gen3s because the Roster limits the types, brands and models of other guns available for sale Why didn't Sig, HK, Colt, S&W figure that out; they could disregard the sales in 23 other states and concentrate on supplying Roster approved guns in California. Hello?

Aren't you aware that gun stores in California generally have low inventories and that for the ones that have plenty of Glocks no one is busting down their doors to get Glocks? Why is that?

The 10% of Californians you claim own guns amounting to more than the number is those other 23 states is the result of accumulated purchases' over a very long period of time and many of those in recent times were the result of panic buying and not general acceptance of guns as a whole.

In case you haven't noticed, gun control in California is always getting more restrictive, not less. None of the cases accepted by SCOTUS even if won will have some great material effect on gun control in California, the legislature and governors are more than willing to amend the laws or create new ones to adapt to any conditions but the result is more restrictions, not less.

If the Roster is good in that it increases profits and reduces competition for Glock then why on earth don't some of the very popular on-line sales outfits sell to California (FFL to FFL)? Surely if as you say the profit margins are high that wouldn't be the effect yet, it is.

For some strange reason you believe that the 90% of people in California (your numbers not mine) who don't yet own guns are going to become gun owners and therefore that represents some huge customer base waiting to be converted. Based on what? You can't point to a single fact to back that up or even some long-term trend. Maybe you think one day California will return to being a conservative state? Please, look around.

Lets see, its 2035 and gun ownership in California continues to rise, and all because profit margins are high because of the Roster and people are still buying Glock Gen3s in some record number and all the gun makers are going Hoorah for the Roster?

If the effects of the Roster were anything close to what you claim then the big-name manufacturers would get new models on the Roster even knowing X amount needed to be removed since fewer means higher profits right? Wrong. It isn't microstamping thats the big holdup, that is something that were the market big enough and available enough they'd jump on it and get it done; its not like in this day and age they can't figure it out.

In summary, if there was this 90% of Californian's that don't yet own guns one day becoming gun owners then the solution is just wait, eventually everyone in California will have guns and then all the gun laws will be ripe for elimination.

[ap3572001]

Gen3 is Glocks STANDARD model. Traveling to Europe every year, I see GEN3 in police holsters. Their std issue. Gen4 was created for British Armed Forces. Gen5 for FBI. Gen3 is not going anywhere. I was issued GEN3 for many years for duty. Excellent weapon with an outstanding track record.

[smittty]

Panic buyers will buy whatever’s being talked about.

How many glocks does one person need and don’t give the one none nonsense!

Gun culture morphed into a marketing scheme that wants you to keep buying more guns till you die. It’s a stupid practice!

Have confidence in yourself and know that more doesn’t make you better!

[Peahi2]

Seen this on social media. Is this true?

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Fake News.

Come on man, this is FUD. Get off the zuckerbook, meta, whatever....


Glock selling GEN3s in California is practically pure profit (as others have mentioned, its a mature product line and costs little to make). Its like they are printing money. There is no way they would shut down that cash flow, especially since there are few competitors to their gen3s in the roster environment.