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  • #16
    Spyder
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2008
    • 17330

    That's all well and good. Are your class students at a level of competence anywhere near Leatham or Jarrett? Are you teaching for competition shooters with high end ultra expensive finely tuned guns or are you teaching classes for every day folks who want to either start in their local IDPA/USPSA, or for defensive purposes...or folks who have never handled a gun before?

    I don't care what a competition guy does for his or her very specific narrowly focused competition requirements, even if they are WAY better and faster shooters than I am. I do care about proper fundamentals, safety, repeatability, and rapid accurate shot placement while mitigating as many variables which cause misses as I possibly can. And yanking your finger completely off the trigger and then back on is about as unrepeatable as it gets.

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    • #17
      Vinnie Boombatz
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2020
      • 3036

      Originally posted by T3Pros
      After your shot breaks, come completely off the trigger, then immediately back on the trigger and back to the prep point. Unless you're trying to rip .16 splits, short reset triggers are of little value to most people. If you're slowly letting your trigger out until you hear and feel it reset, you're being really slow for no benefit.
      I guess the LTT Trigger Job in a Bag I installed in my M9A1 was a waste of money, with that shorter reset and all.l, despite it improving my consistency and accuracy with follow up shots when delivering a controlled pair.

      I’ve been taught the exact opposite, to NOT fly off the trigger and slap it for your follow up shot, so the advice you give doesn’t make much sense to me. I was taught to trap the trigger after the first shot, then let off the trigger until the reset and take up the slack, maintain your sight picture and then fire the follow up shot. As you get better you obviously do this much faster and without thinking. Just flying off the trigger and repeatedly slapping it seems like a great way to lose all trigger control and start shanking follow up shots, especially with a firearm used for self defense that may have an average or heavier trigger pull. Not talking about competition guns though with hair triggers.

      Trigger control is arguably one of the harder thing a to learn as a new shooter but can also make a huge difference in consistency and accuracy once is mastered. I would want to have an instructor who teaches coming completely off the trigger for every shot/follow up shots.
      Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 12-04-2021, 9:50 AM.
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      • #18
        Vinnie Boombatz
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2020
        • 3036

        Originally posted by Spyder
        That's all well and good. Are your class students at a level of competence anywhere near Leatham or Jarrett? Are you teaching for competition shooters with high end ultra expensive finely tuned guns or are you teaching classes for every day folks who want to either start in their local IDPA/USPSA, or for defensive purposes...or folks who have never handled a gun before?

        I don't care what a competition guy does for his or her very specific narrowly focused competition requirements, even if they are WAY better and faster shooters than I am. I do care about proper fundamentals, safety, repeatability, and rapid accurate shot placement while mitigating as many variables which cause misses as I possibly can. And yanking your finger completely off the trigger and then back on is about as unrepeatable as it gets.
        I agree. I train for basic self defense, not competition. Seems a bit concerning to teach that to a brand new shooter who doesn’t know any better as it’s only ingraining bad habits that will only magnify and get worse as the individual moves forward in their training. If you don’t have a solid grasp of the fundamentals of trigger control everything else after that will just make it worse.
        Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 12-04-2021, 9:59 AM.
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        • #19
          StarLord1911
          Member
          • Jan 2020
          • 139

          Just curious has anyone run into any issues with the grayguns setup?





          Good info. Thanks
          Last edited by StarLord1911; 12-04-2021, 9:57 AM.

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          • #20
            dfletcher
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2006
            • 14811

            Re the Sig SRT kit in general, a few years back I bought and installed a "made in Germany" factory version. Quality is excellent, reset is about 1/32" - not that I particularly care. But the parts took smoothing very well.

            A friend had me install one, I noticed it was "made in USA" factory version. Pretty sure main part was MIM and although not bad, not all that good either. Reset was much longer, although still shorter than factory issue trigger.
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            • #21
              fmunk
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 3896


              None. But of all things I've done to my P226, the Sig Armorer's Superstrut made the most difference. GG's is good stuff with very responsive after sales support, but overhyped IMO.


              FS: Atlas Bipod, Custom G23 RMR slide, ETS mags, Jagerwerks, Recover G26/27, CZ Scorpion bits, etc.

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              • #22
                Packy14
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 5312

                Have it in two p226 they are great.
                NRA Lifetime Member

                1A-2A = -1A

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                • #23
                  StarLord1911
                  Member
                  • Jan 2020
                  • 139

                  Thank you

                  Originally posted by Packy14
                  Have it in two p226 they are great.
                  Thanks for the feedback.

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                  • #24
                    Spyder
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 17330

                    I haven't handled a grey guns version. About 11 years ago I bought an SRT setup for my 226 and it's night and day difference, in a great way.

                    Kind of makes me want to but another Sig. 😄

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                    • #25
                      Packy14
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 5312



                      Go to 4:30 in the video. These guys know more about fighting than anyone on this thread.
                      NRA Lifetime Member

                      1A-2A = -1A

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