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  • #76
    waveslayer
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 1728

    XD9 is a terrific gun. Get a PRP drop in trigger to make it come alive

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    • #77
      FNGGlock
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 1289

      Originally posted by stablegenius
      Thanks I had already gone with the XD9. Not the first gun I've ever shot, but it's been 20+ years so it may as well be. Glad to hear another say it was a good choice.



      ah, ok gotcha. Thanks! If SD = Self Defense then what is SD ammo vs range ammo? Hollow points?
      Yes typically hollowpoints are used for defense ammo.
      Here are 2 great options at good prices for the times
      Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P JHP at Target Sports USA with free shipping available. Enjoy deals on 9mm Luger ammo for sale.|^||^|


      Federal Law Enforcement HST 9mm Luger Ammunition 124 Grain +P Jacketed Hollow Point P9HST3 at Target Sports USA with free shipping available. Enjoy de|^||^|


      Practice ammo are FMj and can be had for around 30-40 cents per round for new factory brass if you search a bit.

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      • #78
        BradleyAbrams
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 2159

        Originally posted by stablegenius
        Thanks for the rec, I've heard about the Sigs. It's definitely on my radar. Maybe next.
        I was on my way to get an XD, when I happened to see the Sig SP2022 in a counter display at my LGS.

        Once I tried its ergonomics, it was no contest. Sig SP2022 for me.

        Good luck to you.

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        • #79
          vinny_land
          CGN Contributor
          • Dec 2007
          • 3374

          Originally posted by Ruber
          Fast forward 110 years, there is cheaper manufacturing, increased product reliability, and higher capacity. The fine, hard edges on the internal workings of a 1911 are more costly than the stamped or mim parts allowed in the newer designs.
          Agree with this comment regarding the 1911s. For the price point that OP mentioned, you will get a "better" produced pistol with the XD9 or any striker fired equivalent. I think eventually you may grow into the 1911 but that is another topic.
          "1911 mag, twinkie, twinkie, cupcake, primary weapon mag"

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          • #80
            stablegenius
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2021
            • 29

            Originally posted by waveslayer
            XD9 is a terrific gun. Get a PRP drop in trigger to make it come alive

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            PRP drop in trigger?

            Originally posted by BradleyAbrams
            I was on my way to get an XD, when I happened to see the Sig SP2022 in a counter display at my LGS.

            Once I tried its ergonomics, it was no contest. Sig SP2022 for me.

            Good luck to you.

            .
            Yes I do need to test out the Sig one day.


            Originally posted by FNGGlock
            Yes typically hollowpoints are used for defense ammo.
            Here are 2 great options at good prices for the times
            Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P JHP at Target Sports USA with free shipping available. Enjoy deals on 9mm Luger ammo for sale.|^||^|


            Federal Law Enforcement HST 9mm Luger Ammunition 124 Grain +P Jacketed Hollow Point P9HST3 at Target Sports USA with free shipping available. Enjoy de|^||^|


            Practice ammo are FMj and can be had for around 30-40 cents per round for new factory brass if you search a bit.
            Thank you

            Originally posted by vinny_land
            Agree with this comment regarding the 1911s. For the price point that OP mentioned, you will get a "better" produced pistol with the XD9 or any striker fired equivalent. I think eventually you may grow into the 1911 but that is another topic.
            ha, yes indeed

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            • #81
              waveslayer
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 1728

              Yes Google PRP triggers, they make the best trigger kits for the XD I used to be a distributor for them and got too busy with my day job. Get the drop in. Turns the XD into a much better habdgun

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              • #82
                stablegenius
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2021
                • 29

                Originally posted by waveslayer
                Yes Google PRP triggers, they make the best trigger kits for the XD I used to be a distributor for them and got too busy with my day job. Get the drop in. Turns the XD into a much better habdgun

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                Wow just googled PRP triggers and the first result was the drop in kit for the XD!

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                • #83
                  waveslayer
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1728

                  Originally posted by stablegenius
                  Wow just googled PRP triggers and the first result was the drop in kit for the XD!
                  If your local I'm in South Orange County. You're more than welcome to try out several different style triggers they have.

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                  • #84
                    stablegenius
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2021
                    • 29

                    Originally posted by waveslayer
                    If your local I'm in South Orange County. You're more than welcome to try out several different style triggers they have.

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                    Thanks, but I'm in SD

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                    • #85
                      Vinnie Boombatz
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 3036

                      Learn how to actually shoot and manipulate the firearm before you go messing with aftermarket triggers. Even more optimal, run the gun through a course stock, THEN determine what (if anything) needs changing).

                      No sense in throwing money at an aftermarket trigger when you're new to all this, don't even know the difference between the the stock and aftermarket trigger, and that money would be much better spent on other things like ammo, more magazines, a good holster, a belt, training, etc.

                      Don't put the cart before the horse.

                      If you ever have the time and are able to get out and take a class at Front Sight PM me and I'll give you a 4-day Course Certificate. When I was new here a genius member did that for me, and I just like to do the same for someone else just starting out and pay it forward. I year and a half later and I've taken 6 classes and think it's a great place for a brand new shooter who wants to learn how to be safe, not start off with any bad habits and feel more confident and comfortable around firearms.
                      Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 10-21-2021, 2:33 PM.
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                      • #86
                        Dirtlaw
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 3480

                        Originally posted by stablegenius
                        Wow just googled PRP triggers and the first result was the drop in kit for the XD!

                        I wish I had time to take advantage of this stuff ... before they make it illegal!

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                        • #87
                          waveslayer
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 1728

                          Originally posted by Vinnie Boombatz
                          Learn how to actually shoot and manipulate the firearm before you go messing with aftermarket triggers. Even more optimal, run the gun through a course stock, THEN determine what (if anything) needs changing).



                          No sense in throwing money at an aftermarket trigger when you're new to all this, don't even know the difference between the the stock and aftermarket trigger, and that money would be much better spent on other things like ammo, more magazines, a good holster, a belt, training, etc.



                          Don't put the cart before the horse.
                          True. But I'll disagree when the trigger reset us so horrible on an XD when compared to a Walther, VP9, Glock, Steyr, etc. List goes on and on!
                          So why is it ok to buy a stock Handgun from the list above that have a superior trigger from reset to complete trigger pull, but not upgrading the XD to match?... your logic doesn't. Are sense and for 100 bucks to have an awesome Handgun is money well spent.
                          New shooter or not. Proper training with superior reset will improve your shooting drastically and no more mashing the trigger causing low left 7pm shots on target I'd you're right handed.

                          Your advice is sound but is old school thinking. Like the guys saying their Model 70 .270 or 30.06 is the best rifle...



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                          • #88
                            Ruber
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 543

                            Originally posted by Vinnie Boombatz
                            Learn how to actually shoot and manipulate the firearm before you go messing with aftermarket triggers. Even more optimal, run the gun through a course stock, THEN determine what (if anything) needs changing).

                            No sense in throwing money at an aftermarket trigger when you're new to all this, don't even know the difference between the the stock and aftermarket trigger, and that money would be much better spent on other things like ammo, more magazines, a good holster, a belt, training, etc.

                            Don't put the cart before the horse...
                            I totally agree. Aftermarket triggers add complexity and cost to life that you don't need right now.

                            Every August I take a three day training at an outdoor range southeast of Jamul. Usually pretty warm, usually get some rain or at least some high humidity. We shoot 500+ rounds a day and the guns get locked up dirty each night. The instructors intentionally wear us out to look for bad habits to show up. They make sure we don't clean or lube our guns so we can see their weaknesses.

                            After 1500 rounds with heat, dirt, grime, and moisture, the only XD, Glock, or M&P's I've ever seen fail had aftermarket parts in them, chiefly drop in triggers.

                            The XD is a budget gun. A great budget gun, but a budget gun. IF you want to make it a race gun, I would recommend getting two and keeping your SD gun factory stock. I have never found a broken in XD trigger to be disagreeable.

                            PS. I had a Browning Hi Power for my first class. After the first day, the instructor let me finish the course with his XD 40.

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                            • #89
                              Vinnie Boombatz
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 3036

                              Originally posted by waveslayer
                              True. But I'll disagree when the trigger reset us so horrible on an XD when compared to a Walther, VP9, Glock, Steyr, etc. List goes on and on!
                              So why is it ok to buy a stock Handgun from the list above that have a superior trigger from reset to complete trigger pull, but not upgrading the XD to match?... your logic doesn't. Are sense and for 100 bucks to have an awesome Handgun is money well spent.
                              New shooter or not. Proper training with superior reset will improve your shooting drastically and no more mashing the trigger causing low left 7pm shots on target I'd you're right handed.

                              Your advice is sound but is old school thinking. Like the guys saying their Model 70 .270 or 30.06 is the best rifle...

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                              If I was on a tight budget I'd rather have a stock XD9 and some ammo instead of an XD9 and no ammo.

                              It's a point of diminishing returns and the stock trigger on the XD9 is not THAT bad. People blow things way out of proportion and then it gets even more out of control in forums like this. If you can't effectively shoot an XD9 in it's stock form and make a bunch of excuses and blame the trigger it's more likely your lack of training and ability, not the firearm. With that said I have made changes to some of my firearms and others have been left stock. I decided if they needed these changes or not AFTER I put them through their paces in a class, otherwise you're just throwing money at stuff without even knowing it's your going make a difference or not.

                              And I say all this as someone who owns an XD9 with a PRP trigger in it and it's an upgrade, but I wouldn't call it a life-altering game changer.

                              Dropping a LTT Trigger Job in a Bag into a Beretta M9 is a game changer. PRP trigger into an XD9 is nice, but not essential, and far from a game changer, yet people like you on forums liek this will give the impression that the gun isn't even usable without the upgraded trigger. I'll reinforce my stance on if you're new and on a tight budget, that money is better spent on other things at first. You're also comparing the XD9 to other firearms that are more expensive than the XD9, so naturally many will probably have "better" triggers, and going with your logic, if you're going to drop in a PRP trigger right away why not just spend more for a "better" firearm? And while your at it, why not just spend even more than that to get something even better, may look at something custom etc. See where I'm going? It's a slippery slope when someone just starting out gets more fixated on the gear and less on learning the fundamentals. But you are most certainly free to have a different opinion.

                              All my Gock triggers are stock aside from dropping in an OEM Glock minus connector. Again, another thing that people tend to whine about and throw a ton of money at, when in reality they probably just need to train and practice more instead of thinking that spending money will make up for lack of time put in learning. And although I've only been at this for a short time, in the classes I have taken over that time the guns that tend to ahve the most issues in the classes are the ones that are the most
                              "upgraded" and modified.

                              And I do have a model 70 All-Weather SS in .30-06 but you will ever find any evidence of me saying it's the be all end-all cartridge.
                              Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 10-21-2021, 3:29 PM.
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                              • #90
                                waveslayer
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 1728

                                Originally posted by Vinnie Boombatz
                                If I was on a tight budget I'd rather have a stock XD9 and some ammo instead of an XD9 and no ammo.



                                It's a point of diminishing returns and the stock trigger on the XD9 is not THAT bad. People blow things way out of proportion and then it gets even more out of control in forums like this. If you can't effectively shoot an XD9 in it's stock form and make a bunch of excuses and blame the trigger it's more likely your lack of training and ability, not the firearm. With that said I have made changes to some of my firearms and others have been left stock. I decided if they needed these changes or not AFTER I put them through their paces in a class, otherwise you're just throwing money at stuff without even knowing it's your going make a difference or not.



                                And I say all this as someone who owns an XD9 with a PRP trigger in it and it's an upgrade, but I wouldn't call it a life-altering game changer.



                                Dropping a LTT Trigger Job in a Bag is a game changer. PRP trigger into an XD9 is nice, but not essential, and I'll reinforce my stance on if you're new and on a tight budget that money is better spent on other things at first. But you are most certainly free to have a different opinion.
                                I agree, we can all disagree. But the biggest lacking of any XD is the trigger. Once that is upgraded it makes the gun one of the top tier handguns.

                                If you're on a tight budget shooting isn't the sport for you. Maybe get an air gun or sling shot. Have to pay to play.



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