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  • boludo12
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 451

    Tell me what I got

    My neighbor just received a S&W 38 Special CTG revolver. Chrome version. Marked S.C.P.D. on the frame.

    Anyone have any information on this revolver? Value?

    He isn't a gun guy, I'm not a 38 special guy (he offered it to me), he intends on selling, which I will do on calguns. Eventually.

    Chrome
    4 1/4 barrel
    Pachmayr grips
    S/N is AEZ0949

    thanks.
    Last edited by boludo12; 09-23-2021, 9:38 PM. Reason: add pics
  • #2
    Oldmandan
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 2721

    San Clemente?
    Santa Clarita?

    Maybe post in the LEO section, they may know which cities are PD and which are Sheriffs

    And, we need pics… what’s wrong with you?
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    • #3
      L-2
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 1330

      There's not enough info or photos to specifically determine what revolver is being referred to in Post1. S&W has/had many .38 Special revolver models.

      From my reference book, the "AFZ" prefix was also not specifically listed, but I'd estimate 1984 - 1985 for that revolver.

      1984 – AAU, ABV, ABZ, ACZ, ADE, ADM, ADR, ADT, ADW, AEA, AEB, AEC, AEF, AEL, AEM, AEV, AEZ, AFA, AFJ, AFK, AFM

      1985 – AAV, ACC, ACJ, ADA, ADP, ADZ, AEF, AEH, AEM, AER, AEW, AFB, AFK, AFL, AFN, AFR, AFS, AHA, AHB, AHC, AHJ, AHP, AHS, AHT, AHV, AJB, AJD, AJJ, AJH, ALA, ALB, ALC, ALU, ALV, ALW

      Supica, Jim,Nahas, Richard. Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson (Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson) (Kindle Locations 17043-17046). F+W Media. Kindle Edition.


      Under the "yoke" (aka "crane") on the frame, the model number is usually stamped, i.e., "MOD 36", "MOD 10", etc.
      Last edited by L-2; 09-23-2021, 9:15 PM.
      (former) Glock and 1911 Armorer; LEO (now retired)

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      • #4
        sealocan
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2012
        • 9949

        A Santa Claus Police Department gun.

        Packs of non-union elves and reindeer are tougher than you think.


        But seriously if he can open the cylinder up and look behind the crane/arm of the revolver you might see a certain set of numbers that will tell you what model it is and what generation / modification it is.


        For example if
        " 64 - 2 " is marked on the frame of the gun in the area that is hidden when the crane is closed but can be read once the crane is open/cylinder is out, would tell you that it's a model 64 - 2nd modification or change.

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        • #5
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57036

          Originally posted by boludo12
          My neighbor just received a S&W 38 Special CTG revolver. Chrome version. Marked S.C.P.D. on the frame.

          Anyone have any information on this revolver? Value?

          He isn't a gun guy, I'm not a 38 special guy (he offered it to me), he intends on selling, which I will do on calguns. Eventually.

          S/N is AFZ0949

          thanks.
          Serial number get us to the mid 1980's but without seeing a picture or the model number from inside the crane, not much can be determined.
          There are a LOT of different 38 special S&W revolvers that police departments bought.
          Really common police service revolvers will be Model 10 which was originally blued but many later got nickel plated (or Model 64 if stainless steel).
          Those will most often be seen with a 4" barrel without a heavy underlug and fixed sights.
          If it's got adjustable sights, it could be a nickeled model 15 or model 67 which is stainless steel but those were not so common for departments to issue and this would be a department issued gun with the department markings on it.
          Last edited by ar15barrels; 09-23-2021, 9:23 PM.
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          • #6
            Nvberinger
            Senior Member
            • May 2018
            • 729

            Something like this ?






            You should snag it. Give your neighbor $500. It's worth more. Hope there is the original box.

            It's a model 64, chrome version of model 10, and could by Suffolk County New York.
            Last edited by Nvberinger; 09-23-2021, 9:39 PM.

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            • #7
              boludo12
              Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 451

              I added pics and I'm waiting for the number on the crane arm. Thanks to all comments. I was a bit slow on pic upload too.

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57036

                Originally posted by boludo12
                I added pics and I'm waiting for the number on the crane arm.
                That stainless revolver is a model 64.
                I got my one for around $300 this year.
                The ones with department stampings on them are not worth as much as clean unmarked ones.
                Randall Rausch

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                • #9
                  boludo12
                  Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 451

                  The S/N is faint. Using the iphone magnifier he found that is AEZ, AFZ.

                  The model is on the crane, its a 64-3.

                  Big THANKS to you all for the assist. If he decides to sell it'll be in the mktplace soon.


                  Originally posted by L-2
                  There's not enough info or photos to specifically determine what revolver is being referred to in Post1. S&W has/had many .38 Special revolver models.

                  From my reference book, the "AFZ" prefix was also not specifically listed, but I'd estimate 1984 - 1985 for that revolver.

                  1984 – AAU, ABV, ABZ, ACZ, ADE, ADM, ADR, ADT, ADW, AEA, AEB, AEC, AEF, AEL, AEM, AEV, AEZ, AFA, AFJ, AFK, AFM

                  1985 – AAV, ACC, ACJ, ADA, ADP, ADZ, AEF, AEH, AEM, AER, AEW, AFB, AFK, AFL, AFN, AFR, AFS, AHA, AHB, AHC, AHJ, AHP, AHS, AHT, AHV, AJB, AJD, AJJ, AJH, ALA, ALB, ALC, ALU, ALV, ALW

                  Supica, Jim,Nahas, Richard. Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson (Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson) (Kindle Locations 17043-17046). F+W Media. Kindle Edition.


                  Under the "yoke" (aka "crane") on the frame, the model number is usually stamped, i.e., "MOD 36", "MOD 10", etc.
                  Last edited by boludo12; 09-23-2021, 9:47 PM.

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                  • #10
                    The Gleam
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 12066

                    Highly unlikely it's 'chrome'.

                    More like nickle or polished stainless.

                    I'm thinking Model 10, nickle, or a polished Model 64 or 67. Google "Revolver marked SCPD" and lots of dicussion about Model 10-5s, 15-3s, and 64s and 67s marked SCPD.

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                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57036

                      Originally posted by boludo12
                      I added pics and I'm waiting for the number on the crane arm. Thanks to all comments. I was a bit slow on pic upload too.
                      The SCPD marking seems to be Suffolk County Police Department and LOTS of them seem to have been sold off in the last few years.
                      Looks like the markings are always the same on these SCPD guns because they were ordered to be marked at the factory by Smith & Wesson before they shipped out.
                      Randall Rausch

                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                      Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                      • #12
                        boludo12
                        Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 451

                        From some searches last night I'm pretty sure you are correct.

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        The SCPD marking seems to be Suffolk County Police Department and LOTS of them seem to have been sold off in the last few years.
                        Looks like the markings are always the same on these SCPD guns because they were ordered to be marked at the factory by Smith & Wesson before they shipped out.

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                        • #13
                          SkyHawk
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 23495

                          Here are a couple of agency marked 64-3, $359 recently sold for at auction.



                          Remember that even though these are off-roster, they are importable and can be coverted to single action temporarily for DROS. Anybody who wants one, could get it for the added price of shipping, tax, transfer fee. For me that would be an extra $101, so $460.

                          I do give some extra value to being able to inspect it before purchase, but that only works if the condition is really nice.

                          I guess what I am saying is, $500 wouldn't really be a deal unless it was in exceptional condition. And considering these marked up agency trade-ins are not really sought out, he may have to entice the few prospects who may be local to him into a purchase by offering a reasonable bargain.
                          Last edited by SkyHawk; 09-24-2021, 11:08 AM.
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                          • #14
                            plumbum
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2010
                            • 5394

                            Given the opportunity I would absolutely steal and lowball any S&W service gun offered to me, and I wouldn’t feel guilty.
                            Originally posted by ysr_racer
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                            • #15
                              saudadeii
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 3422

                              Originally posted by boludo12
                              My neighbor just received a S&W 38 Special CTG revolver. Chrome version. Marked S.C.P.D. on the frame.

                              Anyone have any information on this revolver? Value?

                              He isn't a gun guy, I'm not a 38 special guy (he offered it to me), he intends on selling, which I will do on calguns. Eventually.

                              Chrome
                              4 1/4 barrel
                              Pachmayr grips
                              S/N is AEZ0949

                              thanks.
                              https://app.box.com/s/b56iu99aphystt4p4n5ydjin6ltz7s8p
                              Let us know when you decide to post it for sale. I'm in OC and from Suffolk County.
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