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  • Z ME FLY
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2008
    • 6590

    Help with Disassemble on Nframe

    Hey I am trying to clean my s&w610 I took off the grips and 3 screws but can't get the sideplate off. I used a flat head to try to pry it off but it isn't working. Can someone give me some 411.

    thanks
    Originally posted by 69Mach1
    The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

    Originally posted by 69Mach1
    Z gets around. lol
  • #2
    Z ME FLY
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2008
    • 6590

    Or maybe if someone knows of a online manual
    Originally posted by 69Mach1
    The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

    Originally posted by 69Mach1
    Z gets around. lol

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    • #3
      JTROKS
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2007
      • 13093

      With the sideplate screws off use a non marring mallet or the handle of a medium plastic handle screwdriver to tap on the other side of the frame. The vibration will unseat it.

      Last edited by JTROKS; 06-21-2009, 7:47 PM.
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      In the eye of the storm
      Seek the roses along the way
      Just beware of the thorns...
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      • #4
        Z ME FLY
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2008
        • 6590

        So I am hitting on the other side where the release is at correct? I'm tapping it but still nothing
        Originally posted by 69Mach1
        The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

        Originally posted by 69Mach1
        Z gets around. lol

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        • #5
          ojisan
          Agent 86
          CGN Contributor
          • Apr 2008
          • 11768

          If you pry you risk bending it and you will hate yourself.
          Tap all over, even down on the grip.
          A certain amount of vibration and flex has to be induced.
          You can also try holding the barrel and slapping the grip frame against your hand, side plate towards your hand. Next is slap it against a piece of wood.
          Last is pry it.

          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
          I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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          • #6
            Z ME FLY
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2008
            • 6590

            so I am tapping on the correct side?
            Originally posted by 69Mach1
            The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

            Originally posted by 69Mach1
            Z gets around. lol

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            • #7
              tiko
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 866

              Do youhave a rubber/plastic hammer, don't hesitate to tap stronger, you will not hurt the frame.
              Do it yourself.

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              • #8
                ojisan
                Agent 86
                CGN Contributor
                • Apr 2008
                • 11768

                I would start off with holding the gun over your couch or bed.
                Hold frame by barrel with the sideplate down.
                Smack the top solid side of frame, staring from grip frame bottom and working towards the cyl. release latch.

                Next is turn frame over, smack grip frame down to flex the grip frame portion away from sideplate.

                You have to induce some flex. Scary I know, trust me, it won't break.

                Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                • #9
                  Z ME FLY
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 6590

                  So I have been tapping it and hitting it for the past 5 mins (yes I know that doesn't sound right) The cyl came out so I'm still working on the sideplate.
                  Originally posted by 69Mach1
                  The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

                  Originally posted by 69Mach1
                  Z gets around. lol

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                  • #10
                    ojisan
                    Agent 86
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 11768

                    The side plates are super tight because they are such a precision fit.
                    They have to come out straight and evenly at all edges at the same time.
                    Sometimes the pry is necessary, but getting any angle will just wedge it tighter, making this the last resort.

                    Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                    I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                    • #11
                      Z ME FLY
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6590

                      Well I'm just going to give up. But on a good note, I can use the revolver to club someone without and fear of messing it up now.
                      Originally posted by 69Mach1
                      The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

                      Originally posted by 69Mach1
                      Z gets around. lol

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                      • #12
                        ojisan
                        Agent 86
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 11768

                        The pry:
                        I start with thin pocket knife at the trigger and matching pressure at the lower right edge of the plate with a screwdriver Once you get any movement at all, return to tapping and hand slapping. Did you smack it on a wood block?

                        Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                        I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                        • #13
                          scr83jp
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 678

                          Originally posted by ojisan
                          The pry:
                          I start with thin pocket knife at the trigger and matching pressure at the lower right edge of the plate with a screwdriver Once you get any movement at all, return to tapping and hand slapping. Did you smack it on a wood block?
                          schematics are available on egunparts and brownells,have tried asking on google?

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                          • #14
                            J-cat
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2005
                            • 6626

                            Do not pry. You'll damage it.

                            Hold the gun so you have the sideplate against your thumb. Strike the opposite side of the receiver against the gripframe with the handle of the screwdriver. Strike it hard. You need to create resonance in the metal. Strike it repeatedly until the sideplate starts moving. Smack it until the sideplate unseats. Use your thumb to prevent it from falling off.

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                            • #15
                              BigDogatPlay
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 7362

                              Do not, repeat, DO NOT under any circumstances try to pry off the sideplate. It will eventually come off, but you will be very unhappy with the results.

                              The best results in opening a sideplate on any S&W is to:

                              1) Remove the grips.
                              2) Remove the (three or more for earlier models) sideplate screws.
                              3) Remove the cylinder and yoke from the frame, the front most screw holds the yoke in place.
                              4) Hold the frame in your hand, side plate side up toward you.
                              5) Using either a non-marring, e.g. rubber mallet or the wooden / fiberglass handle of a hammer, tap gently but firmly on the grip frame. I get the best results with the handle of a hammer.

                              Work slowly, but you will see the side plate start to loosen up. It needs to raise up out of it's cut slowly and evenly, and it will eventually need to go back in the same way. You will know when you are done because the sideplate will pop out and be loose, generally.

                              Be careful handling the sideplate. It is a closely fitted piece and if you drop it you may be very unhappy. The hammer block bar will be loose in there, that is by design. Watch for it as it has a tendency to come bouncing out when the sideplate comes fully up. There are no other parts which will be loose or fall out on their own.

                              For what it's worth, taking the sideplate off and detail cleaning the innards is not something you should do everytime you go to the range. I pop off the sideplate maybe once every couple of thousand rounds. The exception to that is any stainless steel model. These should (ideally) be detail cleaned inside and out before you take it to the range the first time. The machining process stainless leaves a lot of flakes and chips behind, and those can easily act like grit, particularly if you lube up prior to your first trip to the range. Not quite the same issues with blued or nickeled steel.

                              I'd suggest consulting a book specific on S&W revolver smithing before you get too deeply into the innards.
                              -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

                              Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

                              Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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