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  • #16
    meloki03
    Junior Member
    • May 2009
    • 43

    yo!

    Originally posted by mchavez050582
    Thanks everyone! What about the Glock 31?
    Still considering the Glock 31? 357sig IMO is a stopper of a round, but very hard to find ammo for and $$$. Also, even though glocks are very reliable they will break after enough rounds... anything will, and a 357 is gonna make that happen in less rounds than a 9mm. The first HG I bought was an HK USP45, I have never had a problem with it. It functions with 100% accuracy. I then bought a Glock33. I replaced the recoil rod after 500 rounds... it could have lasted longer but it was showing wear... the gun has functioned 100%. I asked myself why I spent $350 more on the HK. the glock replacement part was $15.00 I have never seen an HK replacement part. 357sig and 45auto have close stopping power (so they say), but the 357sig is a lite small round better for carry and concealment weighing less while having a larger capacity. If you want to send some major brass down the range you might want to consider a 40S&W or a 9MM. Ammo is cheap and available... usually. Ballistics however on these two rounds have a disadvantage in stopping power. Weigh it out. If I were you I would consider buying that G31 and an extra G22 barrel. That way you have cheap shooting/or power. I would also consider a 9mm G17 or smaller G19... You can shoot those things for cheap, but if you want some ammo for protection you can pick up some winchester ranger +p or +p+ cop ammo... which is not good for heavy shooting, but an occasional armed mugger should drop without the need for a follow up... Good luck brotha and welcome to the gun club!

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    • #17
      5hundo
      Banned
      • Jun 2008
      • 2210

      Originally posted by domokun
      The best Glock with the most stopping power is the one that you can comfortably hold in your hands and reliably put rounds on target into the critical/vital organs or center mass area of your target.

      Anything in 9mm, .40 S&W or .45 ACP will have the stopping power you're looking for.
      Let's not forget 10mm, though.

      The Glock 20 is also a good option. It's got a little more kick than a .40 but if you can control it, they are a good fit...

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      • #18
        domokun
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 3525

        Originally posted by 5hundo
        Let's not forget 10mm, though.

        The Glock 20 is also a good option. It's got a little more kick than a .40 but if you can control it, they are a good fit...
        10mm is a nice round but ammo for it sometimes hard to come by.
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        • #19
          cracktheskye
          Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 435

          Please please PLEASE, make sure you go shoot one before you buy one. For a long time I was set on getting a Glock 23 for my first handgun. I went to the range, rented it, shot it, and couldn't stand it. My hand was too big and the forward angle of the grip was too extreme. I like to think that I'm a good shot, but I couldn't hit center mass @ 35 yds. with the thing. I would suggest giving the Heckler & Koch USP, Springfield XD, and Smith and Wesson M&P a try. Also, take into account the cost of ammunition with your first gun, which you may not like! Good luck!
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          • #20
            jlh95811
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 2833

            Originally posted by cracktheskye
            Please please PLEASE, make sure you go shoot one before you buy one. For a long time I was set on getting a Glock 23 for my first handgun. I went to the range, rented it, shot it, and couldn't stand it. My hand was too big and the forward angle of the grip was too extreme. I like to think that I'm a good shot, but I couldn't hit center mass @ 35 yds. with the thing. I would suggest giving the Heckler & Koch USP, Springfield XD, and Smith and Wesson M&P a try. Also, take into account the cost of ammunition with your first gun, which you may not like! Good luck!
            Amen to that. Glock just does not work for about 20% of folks. The grip is ackward as they come. You would think they would go the way of the M&P or XDm and give more flavors.

            Personally XD's fit my hand best. I also much prefer the trigger to a Glock. M&P feels very nice in the hand; I just hate the hinged trigger.

            Anyone looking to purchase a pistol much first shoot a bunch of different styles. First start with one caliber; 9mm as it will be the cheapest to shoot at the range. Get a few different guns with similar dimensions and go to town. Once you find the one that fits your hand best and you can shoot comfortably and accurately then you can worry about caliber choice.

            Yes, you may, as I did, Spend $185-200 at the rental counter but you will be forever pleased that you didn't buy a gun that didn't fit you.
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            • #21
              AJAX22
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              • May 2006
              • 14980

              IMHO, there is only one REAL glock

              the G17 came first and it is still the best
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              • #22
                cracktheskye
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 435

                Originally posted by AJAX22
                IMHO, there is only one REAL glock

                the G17 came first and it is still the best
                What about the Glock 40?

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                • #23
                  punisheryayarea
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                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1932

                  I have a Glock 30sf, Glock 22 RTF, and about to get a Glock 20 SF if i can find the sf version, Glock are great, strong, reliable, and idiot proof I am a true glock fan
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                  • #24
                    ZRT650
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 1167

                    caliber dose not matter all that much if your effectively putting rounds on target. With that being said go with which ever you are most comfortable. I would I personally would only get a glock in 9mm .45 or 10mm. Since this is your first glock get one in the caliber it was designed for 9mm. The G17,19 or 26 get my vote!

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                    • #25
                      blasterp7
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 544

                      All Glocks are "blocky" IMHO. So they all are about as wide as you can get for a handgun. That being stated, all glocks are reliable and practically indestructible. They are absolutely the best buy for the $$$$. I have owned many in all sizes and calibers. My opinion is don't bother with a real small one as the "blocky" above really restricts their usfulness in that catagory. If you want a .45 go with the 1911 and its clones as there will never be a better .45, I repeat NEVER.

                      So the bottom line 19 or 23 Great gun in a perfect size - for the Glock. Cheap ammo in 9 and 40....buy either - I own both - and have some fun!!!

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                      • #26
                        KCM222
                        Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 181

                        Don't forget to try a wheel gun!



                        Hard to beat in terms of pure simplicity (which is important in a stressful situation).

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                        • #27
                          AJAX22
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                          • May 2006
                          • 14980

                          Originally posted by cracktheskye
                          What about the Glock 40?
                          I don't trust .40's

                          Imho the pressures generated are not safe for an unsuported chamber or a thin barrel.

                          I've seen a number of squib loads followed by full loads cause .40's to KB... and just about all of the glocks I've seen that had a catastrophic KB were chambered in .40 cal. (not an infrequent event)

                          I have heard of exactly 1 glock G17 which had a catastrophic failure and it was likely from a metalurgical flaw.

                          I think a large portion of the .40 cal glock KB issue comes from using reloaded ammo that was fired in a glock, then reloaded and fired in another glock.

                          The unsurported chamber causes the brass to deform and become thin and brittle when resized... and if that section of thin/brittle brass lines up with the unsurported section of the chamber again, there is a higher liklihood of failure than exists in 9mm.


                          Also, the G17 can use the unmodified G18 magazines and with factory +2 baseplates that gives you a very reliable 33 round pistol.

                          so even though 1 round of .40 may have a bit more stopping power, the 9mm can keep on truckin till the perp stops twitching, it doesn't matter how many it takes, you've got enough to get the job done with plenty to spare.

                          Last edited by AJAX22; 06-15-2009, 8:25 PM.
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                          • #28
                            626Tony
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1815

                            Originally posted by AJAX22
                            IMHO, there is only one REAL glock

                            the G17 came first and it is still the best
                            try the Glock 17 "RTF" the so called 4th generation Glock take a look at gunbroker.com
                            Don't forget you can get it too....FOR A PRICE!!

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                            • #29
                              SJgunguy24
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • May 2008
                              • 14849

                              mchavez05082, what's your location? I have a 17,26 and a 21 i'll be happy to let you shoot till your finger falls off. The strait dope on Glocks is the 17,22,31,34,35,24 are all the same frame. The same goes for the compact (19's and the23's) and subcompacts.

                              The grip angle can be an issue for some but I find it very comfortable. Hold you hand out and point your finger (like when your dad would point and say NO!) at something. That's just about the angle of the grip. The ability to change caliber and the fact that if something breaks, I can fix it and parts are avalible at retail places and on line vendors.

                              Go out and shoot someone gun and see if you like it before plopping down your cash. PM. me if your local to me and we can schedule a range day.

                              BTW i'm in San Jose
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                              • #30
                                FieldsofFire
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 1878

                                Originally posted by mchavez050582
                                Thanks everyone! What about the Glock 31?
                                If you're moving your budget up a little bit and you are looking at Glocks, I would recommend trying out Springfield Armory XD's as well. You have your choice of calibers and size as well; Sub-compact model (3" barrel), Service (4" barrel), and Tactical (5" barrel). There have been a few going for around $450 right here on the forums. Add a $35 PPT fee onto that and you are set.

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