Getting bored shooting at the range?

[FS00008]

Here's a question... What about mil-surp handguns? I don't see mine on the list but would love to shoot a few matches with my mil-surps (Sov-Bloc). Is that even possible?

[CHS]

Here's a question... What about mil-surp handguns? I don't see mine on the list but would love to shoot a few matches with my mil-surps (Sov-Bloc). Is that even possible?

It's totally legal for SSA

I love SSA for that! If it's something new that they haven't seen anyone shoot before, they just make a new class!

[cal3gunner]

Here's a question... What about mil-surp handguns? I don't see mine on the list but would love to shoot a few matches with my mil-surps (Sov-Bloc). Is that even possible?

As long as its 9mm or larger and in safe working condition I don't see why not. Just because you don't see it legal for production doesn't mean you can't shoot it. You will be able to shoot in Limited, Limited 10 or Open depending on how the gun is set up

[FS00008]

Aw... it has to be 9MM? :-(

7.62x25 wouldn't work? They make a blanket limit for 9MM or larger?

[SVTNate]

I haven't read the thread as it seems you guys are pretty well into it, but yes range shooting is boring to me and has been for a few years now. When I got my CCW, I looked into training more, and it opened my eyes as to how little you learn about fighting with a gun when you're standing there punching paper. I've taken courses from Suarez International and some other trainers, and found it to be much more challenging, fun, while developing a useful set of skills. IMO if you see guns as tools of self defense just as much if not more than sporting fun, it's the essential next step beyond basic marksmanship. It's not cheap to take a 2 day course, especially considering the cost of ammo, but it's a great learning experience and unlike any other shooting you may have done before. It will also show you why most "gun games" are poor training aids for learning how to use a firearm defensively.

[RetroPhit]

I was with you until you said we'd need 150-200 rounds of ammunition. That's unpossible!

I was thinking that too

[SuperSet]

Almost everyone reloads to shoot more for less. And if you think that 150-200 rds is unpossible, wait till you catch the 3-gun bug.

[cal3gunner]

Aw... it has to be 9MM? :-(

7.62x25 wouldn't work? They make a blanket limit for 9MM or larger?

It would have to make the minimum Minor power factor of 125. What that means is bullet weight x velocity equals 125,000 or more. For example, a 125gr bullet at 1000 fps or a 115gr bullet at 1087 fps.

It wouldn't be fair if someone was using a heavy gun with little 380 ammo that recoils like a 22. They would have an unfair advantage.

The whole idea behind USPSA is Speed, Power and Accuracy. You get the speed from your time, the accuracy from the number of points you earn on a stage, power from either Minor or Major power factor, mix all those together and you get your Hit Factor which is how you are ranked on each stage.

[rivviepop]

Aw... it has to be 9MM? :-(

7.62x25 wouldn't work? They make a blanket limit for 9MM or larger?

Technically they list it as ".38 caliber" (to accommodate 38 +P), but yes. So while you could should a higher velocity Tokarev (S&B or Wolf, e.g.) to make 125,000 power factor, your 85gr .30 bullet won't make minimum size limit. Your case length though is fine.

A 9x18mm Makarov is also disqualified because case length must be 19mm or longer (well and it also doesn't make power factor, usually).