Mech Tech "Basic unit" on Glock.

[sonicbuff]

Would my Glock pistol is still considered a pistol if I have a Basic Unit from Mech Tech installed without the buttstock ?

If it does not meet the requirement, what's out of compliance ?

[bohoki]

hmm if it didnt have a buttstock then it would still be a pistol

of course then you run into the assault pistol territory with foward handgrips and barrel shrouds

maybe you could rig up a monsterman type fin to depistolize the grip then you wouldnt have to do the 10 round fixed mag route

glock does have that convienient hole in the butt where something could snap in

[slick_711]

Many responses come to mind. Most notably "No" and "Why?"

[timmyb21]

Many responses come to mind. Most notably "No" and "Why?"

+1. Srsly.

[walter]

because its bad *** thats' why!

[FieldsofFire]

That's actually somewhat cool...

[aplinker]

You can't just not install the buttstock. You'd need to make it such that a buttstock could not be easily added, a la the AR pistols.

For sure the forward PG would trigger AOW status, maybe the 16" barrel, as well? Jack will know better than I.

[ZRT650]

looks EVIL to me

[l_Z_l]

im guessing barrel length and maglock?

Q) I live in California - can I legally purchase a CCU
A) Yes - the product by itself is legal BUT - again BUT - as we understand things the combination of the CCU and a pistol lower becomes illegal under CA assault rifle definitions. We are not qualified to give legal advice so CA residents need to be aware of relevant laws through their own efforts.

[JTROKS]

That looks like a mean pistol caliber carbine when all dressed up. So which route are you going to take?

[dfletcher]

The correct answer is ........barrel shroud + semi auto pistol + detach mag = AW.

There's nothing illegal about attaching a 16.25" bbl to a handgun frame. T/C Encore & Contender shooters (including me) do it all the time. There's no requirement that it be permanent. As it happens, if you had the standard Mech Tech unit you'd have to lop off the buttstock and you'd have to weld the thing back on.

If you can figure out a way to do a maglock on a Glock style Mech Tech unit without a buttstock, you'd simply have a fixed mag semi auto pistol with a very long barrel. Slap a handgun scope on the thing and it would probably be fun. Not exactly accurate as hell, but fun.

[walter]

"If you are a CA resident you should be aware of this and it is your responsibility to observe CA laws. At this time we know of no other States where the combination is not legal but we caution everyone to become aware of relative state and local laws."

F this state

[ke6guj]

For sure the forward PG would trigger AOW status, maybe the 16" barrel, as well? Jack will know better than I.

If the oal length of the item without the stock was 26", I believe it would be considered a long gun. As a long gun, federally it should be able to have the VFG, just you can have a VFG on a cruiser-type PG-only shotgun.

Now, if it never has a shoulder stock, then it shouldn't be considered a rifle, and as such, it would possibly be exempt from all of the AW regs. IIRC, Gene has mentioned that one could possibly build up an off-list lower into a stockless 16"bbl/26"OAL long gun with all the evil features AND a detachable magazine since it should not fall under the pistol or rifle AW regs.

[slick_711]

F this state

So move. You can try to be positive and join the work towards fixing things, you can leave, or you can whine about how much it sucks to other people who already know it. Guess which two are acceptable?

IIRC, Gene has mentioned that one could possibly build up an off-list lower into a stockless 16"bbl/26"OAL long gun with all the evil features AND a detachable magazine since it should not fall under the pistol or rifle AW regs.

Linky? That's curious.

[ke6guj]

Linky? That's curious.

Don't have one handy. Just recalling it from posts over the years.

Its the same rationale that says that a .50BMG Ma Duece with spade grips is not a rifle, since it was not designed to be shoulder fired. And since it is not a rifle per PC definition, then it should be exempt from the .50BMG Rifle ban.